Bestevaer 49ST

[olaf hart]

A tiller on that amazing boat has made my day ...

[Seaworthy Lass]

Originally Posted by olaf hart

A tiller on that amazing boat has made my day ...

Hi Olaf
I am a tiller fan too . The responsiveness to the lightest touch is akin to a joystick when flying .

We spent ages playing with winch placement last week and one criteria was bum room between the winches to sit comfortably on the combing and helm using a tiller extension. Apart from the tip of the combing, the slightly raised handrail on the inner side will provide extra security, wedging us in nicely when heeled.

Our last boat was roughly the same size and had a tiller as well. Friends with a five year old were staying with us once and when he saw the tiller his eyes lit up and he said "Wow, this is just a big Optimist". Helming this new boat should be just as much fun .

SWL

[olaf hart]

Have you heard about Pelagic Autopilots? They even make a high power actuator for tiller steering.

Might be handy if you want to carry an autonomous spare pilot.

https://pelagicautopilot.com/

[Seaworthy Lass]

Originally Posted by olaf hart

Have you heard about Pelagic Autopilots? They even make a high power actuator for tiller steering.

Might be handy if you want to carry an autonomous spare pilot.

https://pelagicautopilot.com/

That brand is new to me. I am just having a look.
We are going with Jefa DD3.

[noelex 77]

Tank mode .

We specified the provision for external fastenings around each of the pilot house windows.

These serve multiple purposes:

1. Attachment of shade cloth to serve as external shades.

2. Attachment of polycarbonate external windows. These can act as additional insulation with a double glazing effect or be tinted for tropical cruising in very hot climates. Polycarbonate is easy to cut with a jigsaw so these are a simple DIY project.

3. Aluminium "storm" shutters. These are simple sheets of aluminium. We specified thick glass windows that are very unlikely to ever break, but if this does occur these aluminium sheets are easily attached to seal the broken window. They can also be used when leaving the boat for long periods to provide UV protection and to stop prying eyes seeing the equipment inside and also to increase security from flying debris in hurricane conditions.

This photo shows a trial fitting of the storm shutters. All we need is big forward gun to complete the scene .

[olaf hart]

That pilot house reminds me of my late seventies SWB FJ Landcruiser, bought it new and the best FWD I ever owned.....

[Matt Johnson]

Originally Posted by noelex 77

Tank mode .

We specified the provision for external fastenings around each of the pilot house windows.

These serve multiple purposes:

1. Attachment of shade cloth to serve as external shades.

2. Attachment of polycarbonate external windows. These can act as additional insulation with a double glazing effect or be tinted for tropical cruising in very hot climates. Polycarbonate is easy to cut with a jigsaw so these are a simple DIY project.

3. Aluminium "storm" shutters. These are simple sheets of aluminium. We specified thick glass windows that are very unlikely to ever break, but if this does occur these aluminium sheets are easily attached to seal the broken window. They can also be used when leaving the boat for long periods to provide UV protection and to stop prying eyes seeing the equipment inside and also to increase security from flying debris in hurricane conditions.

This photo shows a trial fitting of the storm shutters. All we need is big forward gun to complete the scene .

Now that is way too cool! Is this a common addition specified by other Bestevaer customers? I figured you'd just have a sheet as large as the largest opening and use it wherever needed.... only K&M would have them precut and stored away

Did you goes ever post a layout diagram? I was just curious what the living space vs bow/stern storage looks like in the drawing.

Matt

[Dockhead]

I've been lurking and drooling oceans over the deck hardware

Just a quick question on another system -- what are you doing for refrigeration?

[SailRedemption]

Originally Posted by Dockhead

I've been lurking and drooling oceans over the deck hardware

Just a quick question on another system -- what are you doing for refrigeration?

I believe they are going sans refrigeration. Just ice box if I remember correctly.

[a64pilot]

Originally Posted by SailRedemption

I believe they are going sans refrigeration. Just ice box if I remember correctly.

Really?
Interesting Boat, I can’t imagine doing without a generator for a boat this size and cost, much less refrigeration/ freezer.
Even if it wasn’t intended to be used, I would think a generator would be a good backup to have.

[packeteer]

why would they need a generator? they're going to have a large solar array, plus the main engine

[a64pilot]

Originally Posted by packeteer

why would they need a generator? they're going to have a large solar array, plus the main engine

Just a backup, for you never know. This is to my way of thinking a rather large boat, and certainly not inexpensive. And where we cruise every now and again it gets stupid hot and the biting insects come out about the same time as the wind goes to nothing. It’s either sit in your bunk in a pool of sweat or crank the generator and turn on the AC.
I have never been in the high latitudes, and I’m sure never will.
However if they are foregoing refrigeration then surely they don’t really need much in the way of power generation anyway.
With not having a water heater, I guess no fridge, no generator and I assume no air conditioning etc.
However the power panel sure seemed to be quite large and complex, I assume there is very little if any AC devices?
This isn’t a mainstream Boat, I’d like to see it, cause I have a feeling the differences between it and a regular production Boat may be quite significant.
I bet for instance it has a hell for strong anchor roller, and maybe Sampson post?
Unless I’m mistaken I thought I saw cable life lines. I would have thought solid SS tubing similar to Amel maybe?

[packeteer]

definitely no AC. they'll have a refleks diesel heater which can be used for boiling a kettle / heating water
essentially they'll be camping in style [emoji23]

[Seaworthy Lass]

Originally Posted by packeteer

....essentially they'll be camping in style

You've nailed it .
The luxuries that are most important to me are to be dry and safe and to have time to enjoy all the best cruising can offer, rather than being stuck in harbour using up priceless time repairing items or waiting for replacements to come in.

The sea is a harsh environment. I think one easy trap to fall into is to try and reproduce the same amenities as we have on shore. The second trap is to overcomplicate the boat simply because it is bigger or more expensive. Both will create long term headaches.

We are not new to this. We have had a decade cruising on an aluminium boat of a similar size and we have learned which systems are vital for us, which ones we are happy to do without and which ones we feel are totally unnecessary. Rather than complexity, when it comes to yacht build and gear we have gone for simple, tough, reliable, easy to maintain and superbly constructed (my form of luxury), with backs up where practical for critical systems.

SWL

PS Our refrigeration will be a stainless steel National Luna portable fridge. A similar smaller unit will function when required as a freezer or additional refrigeration, and will also double up as a backup. An ice cube maker will be used for sundowners. The ice cube maker falls in the vital category .

[john61ct]

So a U-line then?