CQR stowage

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by MicHughV

forgot to add.....why depend on a single anchor ??

any well-found boat will usually have a selection of anchors to choose from depending on bottom, depth, etc, ad infinitum.....if one doesn't work...try another...

Any well found boat has an anchor that works full stop

Do you really expect us to chop and change 150lb of anchor at a moment's notice?
Or friends on theirs running a 300lb anchor?

Whilst we do have other anchors on board we have our best in use at all times.

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by noelex 77

The CQR works fine in medium-soft substrates, but then again so do most anchor models. In harder substrates it just refuses to set and in soft substrates it sets well but has limited holding ability.

This early video by Maine Sail conducted in hard sand illustrates exactly what I have observed underwater:

https://youtu.be/pmGAckf69pE

And for any of you who didn't follow Noelex's extensive series of posts on this a few years ago, he has done systematic research on anchor performance in the Aegean, diving on and photographing dozens if not hundreds of anchors in real life usage. He knows what he's talking about! Based not on anecdotes and personal experience, like me and most of the rest of us, but based on a great deal of actual data, gathered in a systematic way.

My personal experience, however, does happen to line up with Noelex's research. That's about 10 years and countless nights lying to CQR's on a couple different boats, 15 years lying to various Spades on 3 different boats, a couple of years with a Delta, a few years with a 121 pound Rocna, now one season with a Turkish Ultra, some Bruce and other random anchors on charter and friends' boats.

My personal experience, for what it's worth (which is very little compared to Noelex's work), was that going from a CQR to a more modern anchor completely changed the whole experience of anchoring. YMMV.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by noelex 77

Just like this:

Yup. Laziest anchor I’ve ever had. Asleep on thd job most of the time

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by noelex 77

The CQR works fine in medium-soft substrates, but then again so do most anchor models. In harder substrates it just refuses to set and in soft substrates it sets well but has limited holding ability.



This early video by Maine Sail conducted in hard sand illustrates exactly what I have observed underwater:



https://youtu.be/pmGAckf69pE

Yup CQR = junk and constantly gives indications its dug when it’s not.

[boatman61]

Still no answer to the OP.. so bury it with BS..

[thomm225]

My bow roller got destroyed so I stored my CQR on the foredeck for years with it tied to the center cleat when sailing.

Mine was only a 20 lb. CQR so not that hard to move about.

My CQR was slightly undersized for my boat but held quite well. Tide changes every 6 hours or so up here and the CQR had no trouble holding even with the strong current and tide change which swung the boat thru 180 degrees and sometimes 360 degrees.

[noelex 77]

Originally Posted by Dockhead

And for any of you who didn't follow Noelex's extensive series of posts on this a few years ago, he has done systematic research on anchor performance in the Aegean, diving on and photographing dozens if not hundreds of anchors in real life usage. He knows what he's talking about! Based not on anecdotes and personal experience, like me and most of the rest of us, but based on a great deal of actual data, gathered in a systematic way.

My personal experience, however, does happen to line up with Noelex's research. That's about 10 years and countless nights lying to CQR's on a couple different boats, 15 years lying to various Spades on 3 different boats, a couple of years with a Delta, a few years with a 121 pound Rocna, now one season with a Turkish Ultra, some Bruce and other random anchors on charter and friends' boats.

My personal experience, for what it's worth (which is very little compared to Noelex's work), was that going from a CQR to a more modern anchor completely changed the whole experience of anchoring. YMMV.

Thanks for the kind words.

I think our opinion of the CQR is actually pretty close. There are certainly many anchors that significantly outperform this model, and not by a small margin.

Unfortunately, the CQR has left a legacy that still resonates today. For example, cruising guides describing many anchorges as “poor holding” when they really mean “poor holding with a CQR, but fine with a modern anchor” and the still suggested requirement (see post #29) to frequently swap anchor designs to accommodate different substrates.

[Panope]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Still no answer to the OP.. so bury it with BS..

I searched through all of my CQR "harbor shots". This is the only relevant (to the OP) idea that I could find.

Without a picture of the OP's foredeck, it is hard to know if this would make a good option or not.

[thomm225]

Main difference I noticed with my new gen anchor as compared to the worn CQR I used for the last 10 years is that it's much harder to dislodge after it's dug in for a night of strong current and tide changes.

It also seemed to have a firm set, but I drift set so it's hard to tell. It was just a feeling I had.

The Mantus M1 I have is 19" at it's widest point whereas the CQR was about 9"

Mantus M1 is a 25 lbs anchor and the CQR is 20 lbs

CQR is tied to center foredeck cleat when sailing. Center foredeck cleat used for dock lines when not sailing or anchored

[Jennie147]

Thanks

[boatman61]

[Ken Pole]

It's shameful that nobody answered the original question.

[Jammer]

Originally Posted by Ken Pole

It's shameful that nobody answered the original question.

Several people did. It's shameful that you didn't read the thread.

[thomm225]

Just came off anchor.

Tied line to anchor quickly and secured to center cleat.

Anchor and chain still muddy from overnight anchorage.

Will store rode soon or leave as is to rinse at dock in a few days....when trip is over

Normally if I do that I push it all back against the kayak so it won't go over the side......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejcp-rCYz3U

[AiniA]

Originally Posted by MicHughV

forgot to add.....why depend on a single anchor ??

any well-found boat will usually have a selection of anchors to choose from depending on bottom, depth, etc, ad infinitum.....if one doesn't work...try another...

On our circumnavigation we had a Manson Supreme, a Fortress, and a big, old High Tensile Danforth. Never found out how the latter two performed since the Supreme worked great everywhere.