Boat partnership for major blue water sailing

[sailguy98245]

I am one of those who would love to sail around the world but have a wife who gets easily seasick and has no interest in being aboard for weeks and months at a time. However, she is very supportive of me doing long distance trips. We moved to the Pacific Northwest because of the amazing boating in protected waterways and it has worked excellently for her.

My dilemma is that I can't justify spending the money on a serious blue water cruiser when I can only use it a few months at a time. So, I would like a partner. But most partnership arrangements are for boating locally.

Does anyone have any idea how I would go about finding this kind of arrangement? I would consider doing the World ARC as I was aboard a sailboat for three months that was on the same route from the Caribbean to Tahiti and liked how that rally worked. I'm an experienced blue water sailor with over 35,000 sea miles and experienced in all aspects of trip planning, preparation and execution of long distance crossings.

While it's not necessary for me to circumnavigate, I would love to get back to the S. Pacific and do the milk run. I'm 60, physically fit, but feel the clock ticking for this type of adventure.

Serious responses very much appreciated!

[rickpalm]

Sailguy98245,
I think you could find all the long distance sailing you want without the partnership issues. We did Jimmy Cornell's Europa 92 and had been active with 1500 for many years and with WCC for a couple of yeas. On the World ACR Crew come and go or stay for the entire trip. If you really want to be a partner I'm confident you can find a boat that will work out an agreement with you for the trip. I know it has been done. I'd register on the crew list at WCC outlining your desires and qualifications. My guess is that you will get serious responses from boats planning to do the next World ARC.

[sailguy98245]

Originally Posted by rickpalm

Sailguy98245,
I think you could find all the long distance sailing you want without the partnership issues. We did Jimmy Cornell's Europa 92 and had been active with 1500 for many years and with WCC for a couple of yeas. On the World ACR Crew come and go or stay for the entire trip. If you really want to be a partner I'm confident you can find a boat that will work out an agreement with you for the trip. I know it has been done. I'd register on the crew list at WCC outlining your desires and qualifications. My guess is that you will get serious responses from boats planning to do the next World ARC.

Thank you, this is an excellent idea.

[tuffr2]

I take it you are retired. I would think being away from the wife for a long period of time could cause an issue. Especially if you really like the adventure and want to continue long trips.

Man, what an adventure a circumnavigation would be.

Good luck

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[JPA Cate]

I don't know you or your good lady, but man, I have been getting motion sickness that I can remember since I was 4. As I have over 100,00 cruising miles, you can guess that I trialled a lot of stuff before I found what works for me-- stugeron. Available from internet pharmacies.

Your good lady may not want to accompany you if she thinks she will be seasick and cold and miserable, but there is a chance she might be onboard with your plans if you guys could factor out the seasickness.

There are also some over the counter things that work for some people, but I really would want to know how your good lady feels, and of course, yourself, before going on with this.

Ann

[sailguy98245]

Originally Posted by Ann T. Cate

I don't know you or your good lady, but man, I have been getting motion sickness that I can remember since I was 4. As I have over 100,00 cruising miles, you can guess that I trialled a lot of stuff before I found what works for me-- stugeron. Available from internet pharmacies.

Your good lady may not want to accompany you if she thinks she will be seasick and cold and miserable, but there is a chance she might be onboard with your plans if you guys could factor out the seasickness.

There are also some over the counter things that work for some people, but I really would want to know how your good lady feels, and of course, yourself, before going on with this.

Ann

We have used Stugeron for many years. It is less effective for her now than it used to be. Also, part of the problem is that she is just uncomfortable being offshore.

[akprb]

We did this for years with a partner. I wrote a bit about it here:

Back Story | sailingohana

Worked out fantastic for everyone with some basic ground rules and a good relationship. In particular the boat was generally moving and maintained, in addition it would end up in different places which made in exciting for flying in blind to take off for a few months.

Have a ball!

[seasick]

My wife and I have sailed long-distance together for three decades. A metastatic cancer diagnosis and grandkids have reshuffled her priorities and threw my vito option clean out the port hole. Now I solo the boat to beautiful destinations and she flies in for the turquoise lagoons.

As a commercial vessel's broker of a decade, I helped facilitate a great many partnership agreements mainly in fishing vessel operations. I recommend against this option. Partners are often the best of friends going in and the opposite coming out of these agreements.

There are better alternatives. Crew for other cruisers, become a delivery captain or crew. Bareboat charter, look for a new wife. Just kidding on the last option.

Whenever my wife appears to be "very supportive of my doing long distance trips" I have to wonder if I've been snoring or leaving the toilet seat up too often.

Perhaps go for a more modest boat and use the dollars you save to fly her in and out of your destinations.

My brothers and sister and I are all long distance sailors and circumnavigators. We are all extremely close and have similar aspirations in continuing sailing but even as close as we are, we would never consider partnering in a vessel.

[tuffr2]

I have one friend that I grew up with. We are very like minded. He is about the only person I would partner with.

If you have any like minded life long friends maybe they are in a stage of their life they would go with you.

I would be a little queasy picking someone I did not know.

Now on the other hand you have sailing that might be a bonding agent. Like me saying... he has a boat so I basically like him.



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[sailguy98245]

I have many friends who would love to do this, mostly younger, but just are not at the same stage in life as me.

[Mithril Bham]

Seasickness can be a horrible experience. My wife is one of the few people I have known who does not get seasick. Normally (as you probably know) you bite the bullet for 24 hours until you get your sea legs, although I do know people who don't get over it but they are rare. That can be a miserable 24 hours. Staying above and steering helps.
I have a Bruce Roberts Steel Mauritius 43 in B'ham that I would consider a partnership in but it needs another 50G's to refit. Is now on the hard at Colony Wharf. Very well built in Bellingham. Wouldn't mind moving her around the world to charter locally between runs. Not interested in blue water cruising myself.
Crewing ideas above sound good as long as your cronies are like-minded.
Good luck with your venture.

[garnold3]

I am bring my HC 48T to New Orleans from North California. If you would be interested in doing all or part of that with me lets talk.

G Arnold

[chalupo]

Still up for a partnership? I would be.
Your post sounds a lot like one I just put out on this forum.
I'm originally from the NW (Spokane, WA) but now call Temecula, CA home.

I got $150k to put toward a boat, am 54 and in excellent physical condition. Read my post here for more info.
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ls-176500.html
Reagrds,
chalupo

[jimp1234]

Interesting post. We're about a year away from buying a boat and cruising when I retire. However, the plan is to be "commuter cruisers" versus live-aboards. The current plan is to position the boat in the Caribbean, cruise seasonally then put the boat in a hurricane hole or on the hard for part of the year. I've often thought if the logistics issues could be figured out, a partnership for commuter cruisers with each partner taking the boat for part of the year, would be ideal. I'm not sure that would work with what you have in mind but feel free to post comments, or contact me directly if you'd care to discuss it.

-Jim

[Dr. Sea]

Originally Posted by jimp1234

The current plan is to position the boat in the Caribbean, cruise seasonally then put the boat in a hurricane hole or on the hard for part of the year.

Jim, have you considered buying a boat in the Sunsail or Moorings fleet? My wife and I did this before I was fully retired and it worked out wonderfully. We sailed charter boats from various bases in the Caribbean or other parts of the world for 10-12 weeks a year. There was none of the hassle of private boat ownership--no repairs to pay for, no insurance, no dockage. Just get on a clean boat with fuel and water tanks filled, sail it, then turn it in dirty and empty and fly home.