440: Lagoon 440 Weight, Height, Flybridge

[freetime]

haha...ops. Thanks, this steeringposition is top.1 in good weather but...in bad...no thanks. Then you are alone upstairs.

[AndyT]

Well Hi Everyone

After a long study and .... trying some of the catamarans like Saline , orana 44, lagoon 440 I have made my mind and bought a brand new Lagoon 440 2009 .
Thanks for all your assistance out there .
AndyT

[Adaero]

Originally Posted by AndyT

Well Hi Everyone

After a long study and .... trying some of the catamarans like Saline , orana 44, lagoon 440 I have made my mind and bought a brand new Lagoon 440 2009 .
Thanks for all your assistance out there .
AndyT

Andy
Congratulations. I bet you can't wait now?
I've just completing getting mine ready to sail away so if you need any info on additional gear then PM me.
Fair Winds

[AndyT]

Originally Posted by Adaero

Andy
Congratulations. I bet you can't wait now?
I've just completing getting mine ready to sail away so if you need any info on additional gear then PM me.
Fair Winds

Thanks Adaero .

Yes I am pretty excited ! I should get it end of January , I pretty much ordered everything from Ramarine 120e ....to TV to AC and gen 9.5 and water desalination
system ,forward sonar etc.. , any special recommendation??

Regards
Andy

[restorm]

Hi, folks. I'm new to these forums, and am trying to decide between a Lagoon 44 and a Leopard 46. This thread dealt with that choice a couple of years ago. I'd love to know if anyone has made that choice lately, which way they went, and why. I was hoping to go with a hybrid L440, but things don't seem to be going so well for that approach. BTW: I noticed several folks asked why the L440 is so heavy, but I never saw anyone post what seems to be the most obvious reason: the L440 uses obsolete hand-laid fiberglass, even though most Lagoons (and all Leopards, as far as I know) use modern vacuum-bagging.

[fastcat435]

Originally Posted by restorm

Hi, folks. I'm new to these forums, and am trying to decide between a Lagoon 44 and a Leopard 46. This thread dealt with that choice a couple of years ago. I'd love to know if anyone has made that choice lately, which way they went, and why. I was hoping to go with a hybrid L440, but things don't seem to be going so well for that approach. BTW: I noticed several folks asked why the L440 is so heavy, but I never saw anyone post what seems to be the most obvious reason: the L440 uses obsolete hand-laid fiberglass, even though most Lagoons (and all Leopards, as far as I know) use modern vacuum-bagging.

There is no difference between the way the Lagoon 440 and the Leopard 460 are produced , both are hand laid and and vacuum bagged , both are good and strong cats and yes both are on the heavy side but if you are in no hurry who cares.

Greetings

[fastcat435]

Hallo Andy when are you going cruising ?
Already living on board and enjoying it.

Have a great time and happy and safe sailing

Gideon

[restorm]

Where are you getting your information? The official Lagoon website lists the models that are vacuum-bagged, and the 440 is not one of them. I checked with the official Lagoon sales company, and they confirmed that the 440 is hand-laid.

[AndyT]

Hi Gideon.
Well I am not on board yet but planing to be from January onwards
I will leave the Atlantic side of France end of March and plan to spend 6 month around the Med .
Hopping to stay dry have good winds and calm sea .

All the Best Andy

[AndyT]

Originally Posted by restorm

Hi, folks. I'm new to these forums, and am trying to decide between a Lagoon 44 and a Leopard 46. This thread dealt with that choice a couple of years ago. I'd love to know if anyone has made that choice lately, which way they went, and why. I was hoping to go with a hybrid L440, but things don't seem to be going so well for that approach. BTW: I noticed several folks asked why the L440 is so heavy, but I never saw anyone post what seems to be the most obvious reason: the L440 uses obsolete hand-laid fiberglass, even though most Lagoons (and all Leopards, as far as I know) use modern vacuum-bagging.

Hi

Well I just went via that dilemma and that was this very year and not a year ago, my final decision was fr a Lagoon , reasons where that I loved the Flight Bridge , I loved the Finnish of the boat and the fact that the Leopard is a bit faster does not play a role for me as I have time and it was pure comfort I was going for .
more over sailing in the Med I will cover short distances mainly so the time difference will not be significant ( I assume the diference can be 0.5 knot an hour meaning 3 knots diference in six hours - that will bring me 0.5 hours later then with a leopard and that is also a maybe )

I did a major survey on several boats including the Salina 48 and Orana 44 and tried them , I was also in several boat shows like Cannes and genova . and my desicion at the end was firm on the Lagoon 44 .

well I guess it was also a matter of personal taste and the way it fits my large family , but I simpetaise with your situation now it is pretty hard to make a desicion , my finnal options where also the leopard 46 and the lagoon 44

Regards
Andy

[fastcat435]

Happy and safe sailing Andy
Good cat and choice

Gideon

[AndyT]

Originally Posted by fastcat435

Happy and safe sailing Andy
Good cat and choice

Gideon

Thanks

[fastcat435]

Hallo Restorm

All Lagoon are vacuum bagged with the exception of the newer models.
These are resin infused , you can find this on their web site.

Greetings and good luck in making a choice.
If you go to the following site from Andy ( adaero ) he has made a very nice way to compare cats all in the sizes from 42 up to 48 ft
Tulliana - The Boat and look at the spreadsheet you can compare and or change his since ratings or points given are always subjective
Greetings

Gideon

[AndyT]

Hi Restorm.

I would like to add the fastcat ( Gideon ) Adaero made a very nice table that I was looking into it as well during my debate time , but I had to change his coments on some boats as where subjective .

In my correction to the table the Lagone and Leopard came almost even also on $ value which now due to the week Euro it is not correct any more so actually $ wise the Lagoon will be far better now .
Regards
Andy

[restorm]

I appreciate the quick and thoughtful responses from all of you.
Andy: Apparently there's conflicting information on the Lagoon website, if you found a place where it says the 440 is vacuum-bagged. The following page on their site says the 440 is not (LAGOON - distributeur catamaran- bateaux de plaisance). And Staley Weidman, one of the main Lagoon sales reps in the States acknowledged by email that the 440 is hand-laid. Lots of confusion...