Second bow anchor on B393

[zeehag]

even with my huge brick i find sailing with second anchor on bow uncomfortable at best and dangerous for norm. tried it w¡th a 45 pound anchor and 250 ft 5/16 chain.
moved it all aft while underway to bring bows out of water.
when at anchor i have second anchor ready fro deployment, yes.
not while underway.

[Vasco]

Zee,

No problem with trim on a 393.

Mark from Missouri,

I would not worry about a second anchor at the bow if you have a modern anchor and all chain. In my old boat (CS36M) my Bruce (primary) would not dig in when anchoring in turtle grass in the Bahamas. In those instances I would use my CQR (secondary). Also the CS sailed like crazy at anchor when the wind piped up so I would put two hooks out and that would really cut down on the sailing. This is not a problem with the 393 that sits quite well at anchor.

Not to resurrect anchor wars but if you go cruising investing in a new generation anchor such as a Manson Supreme and all chain is the way to go.

[I.Grind]

Originally Posted by zeehag

even with my huge brick i find sailing with second anchor on bow uncomfortable at best and dangerous for norm. tried it w¡th a 45 pound anchor and 250 ft 5/16 chain. moved it all aft while underway to bring bows out of water. when at anchor i have second anchor ready fro deployment, yes. not while underway.

That sounds like a lot of work!

[Stumble]

Mark,

There is some doubt about the validity of carrying two anchors on the roller, but what isn't in doubt is that the CQR is a poor holding anchor compared to modern ones. If you really want to upgrade your system the first priority wouldn't be to get a second anchor but to swap to any of the new SHHP generation of anchors. There is a lot written about them here, and a long discussion on the Bigger is Better anchor thread, but the short answer is that the CRQ has roughly 1/4 the holding power of a modern anchor.

Personally I think a single massively oversized anchor, the combined weight of the two anchors you would carry is a better option than two seperate anchors.

[Mark Stillwell]

Thanks to all who provided input and suggestions.

Based on this and other research, we have penciled a Rocna 44 lb. and 200 ft. chain into our budget.

[Vasco]

Originally Posted by Mark Stillwell

Thanks to all who provided input and suggestions.

Based on this and other research, we have penciled a Rocna 44 lb. and 200 ft. chain into our budget.

Are you getting the chain soon? And where's the boat. I need new chain (200') and a barrel (400 feet) is cheaper than half a barrel. Acco 3/8 BBB. I'm in Fernandina Beach FL right now.

[Mark Stillwell]

Unfortunately, I'm in Missouri and will spend one more cold winter here. Hope to move Dragonfly II to Florida next October 2014.

Just out of curiosity, why 3/8 BBB. I think I have 5/16 G4 HT that come with the boat.

FYI, we hope to update our electronics this winter, sails next summer, ground tackle and dingy next fall in Florida.

[Vasco]

Depends on the windlass gypsy. The 2004 came with a Simpson Lawrence and a 3/8 gypsy.

The barrel price is $1 cheaper a foot than the half barrel price.

[Mark Stillwell]

I think I have Lewmar windlass on 2003, but not sure. I'll have to check next time I'm at the lake.

[Vasco]

Originally Posted by Mark Stillwell

I think I have Lewmar windlass on 2003, but not sure. I'll have to check next time I'm at the lake.

Simpson Lawrence Lewmar same thing.