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Old 29-11-2013, 06:11   #16
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Re: Second bow anchor on B393

even with my huge brick i find sailing with second anchor on bow uncomfortable at best and dangerous for norm. tried it wĄth a 45 pound anchor and 250 ft 5/16 chain.
moved it all aft while underway to bring bows out of water.
when at anchor i have second anchor ready fro deployment, yes.
not while underway.
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Old 29-11-2013, 06:29   #17
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Re: Second bow anchor on B393

Zee,

No problem with trim on a 393.

Mark from Missouri,

I would not worry about a second anchor at the bow if you have a modern anchor and all chain. In my old boat (CS36M) my Bruce (primary) would not dig in when anchoring in turtle grass in the Bahamas. In those instances I would use my CQR (secondary). Also the CS sailed like crazy at anchor when the wind piped up so I would put two hooks out and that would really cut down on the sailing. This is not a problem with the 393 that sits quite well at anchor.

Not to resurrect anchor wars but if you go cruising investing in a new generation anchor such as a Manson Supreme and all chain is the way to go.
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Old 29-11-2013, 07:47   #18
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even with my huge brick i find sailing with second anchor on bow uncomfortable at best and dangerous for norm. tried it wĄth a 45 pound anchor and 250 ft 5/16 chain. moved it all aft while underway to bring bows out of water. when at anchor i have second anchor ready fro deployment, yes. not while underway.
That sounds like a lot of work!
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Re: Second bow anchor on B393

Mark,

There is some doubt about the validity of carrying two anchors on the roller, but what isn't in doubt is that the CQR is a poor holding anchor compared to modern ones. If you really want to upgrade your system the first priority wouldn't be to get a second anchor but to swap to any of the new SHHP generation of anchors. There is a lot written about them here, and a long discussion on the Bigger is Better anchor thread, but the short answer is that the CRQ has roughly 1/4 the holding power of a modern anchor.

Personally I think a single massively oversized anchor, the combined weight of the two anchors you would carry is a better option than two seperate anchors.
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Old 04-12-2013, 12:59   #20
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Re: Second bow anchor on B393

Thanks to all who provided input and suggestions.

Based on this and other research, we have penciled a Rocna 44 lb. and 200 ft. chain into our budget.
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Thanks to all who provided input and suggestions.

Based on this and other research, we have penciled a Rocna 44 lb. and 200 ft. chain into our budget.

Are you getting the chain soon? And where's the boat. I need new chain (200') and a barrel (400 feet) is cheaper than half a barrel. Acco 3/8 BBB. I'm in Fernandina Beach FL right now.
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Re: Second bow anchor on B393

Unfortunately, I'm in Missouri and will spend one more cold winter here. Hope to move Dragonfly II to Florida next October 2014.

Just out of curiosity, why 3/8 BBB. I think I have 5/16 G4 HT that come with the boat.

FYI, we hope to update our electronics this winter, sails next summer, ground tackle and dingy next fall in Florida.
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Re: Second bow anchor on B393

Depends on the windlass gypsy. The 2004 came with a Simpson Lawrence and a 3/8 gypsy.

The barrel price is $1 cheaper a foot than the half barrel price.
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I think I have Lewmar windlass on 2003, but not sure. I'll have to check next time I'm at the lake.
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I think I have Lewmar windlass on 2003, but not sure. I'll have to check next time I'm at the lake.
Simpson Lawrence Lewmar same thing.
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