Rocna's new anchor/ Hey, Anchor thread!!!

[Alan Mighty]

Any understanding why the 'new' (or old, depending on to whom you talk) Rocna is now called Vulcan?

I see no more connection with Vulcanus, the son of Jupiter and Juno, and the diety of fire and metal workers than any other metal anchor.

Of course such a name avoids the logical absurdity of the other manufacturer who introduced a model called 'The Supreme', suggesting that their own more recent model could not surpass it. Did not Rocna formerly claim that the Rocna Original was the best anchor you could use?

Al

[Coops]

Originally Posted by Alan Mighty

Any understanding why the 'new' (or old, depending on to whom you talk) Rocna is now called Vulcan?

I see no more connection with Vulcanus, the son of Jupiter and Juno, and the diety of fire and metal workers than any other metal anchor.

Of course such a name avoids the logical absurdity of the other manufacturer who introduced a model called 'The Supreme', suggesting that their own more recent model could not surpass it. Did not Rocna formerly claim that the Rocna Original was the best anchor you could use?

Al

Why not call them names like Harry, Tom or Dick? Even Bruce? Oh, hang on a minute.

Coops.

[Tayana42]

My wife calls ours the Rocna of Gibraltar.

[Alan Mighty]

Originally Posted by Alan Mighty

Any understanding why the 'new' (or old, depending on to whom you talk) Rocna is now called Vulcan?

I looked at the Wikipedia entry on Vulcan and found one answer (if we assume that Peter Smith or his latest hypemaster are into Roman myth):

"As the son of Jupiter, the king of the gods, and Juno, the queen of the gods, Vulcan should have been quite handsome, but baby Vulcan was small and ugly with a red, bawling face. Juno was so horrified that she hurled the tiny baby off the top of Mount Olympus.

"Vulcan fell down for a day and a night, landing in the sea. Unfortunately, one of his legs broke as he hit the water, and never developed properly. Vulcan sank like a pebble to the cool blue depths where the sea-nymph, Thetis, found him and took him to her underwater grotto, and raised him as her own son."

So perhaps the hypemaster got the idea that the Vulcan is an ugly anchor that didn't develop properly. If you're lucky, it will sink like a stone although taking a day and a night longer to set than you think. Then it might be given a good home in the depths and end up reluctant to return to the world above the water.

Al (who is clearly just avoiding his appointment with the engine room and another round with the mixing elbow on the Yanmar 3GM30F)

[BigBeakie]

Ahhhh, a smile to end the week! Thank you

[Pelagic]

Originally Posted by noelex 77

You modern sailors are spoilt.

Try carrying a finger crunching CQR around. I am sure the designer of the CQR only put that hinge on as a practical joke

I hear you about the CQR…. (I have 3 of them!) …. but they do fit snugly into my bow design

For all you anchor gurus out there…

1……Are the new generation anchors REALLY that much better than the CQR?

And if so..

2….. Which new Gen would Anchor would you change to for my boat?

[noelex 77]

1. Yes

2. A steel Spade.

[Pelagic]

Originally Posted by noelex 77

1. Yes

2. A steel Spade.

Nolex.... I thought we were friends... am I missing something
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...medy-1138.html

[noelex 77]

The Spade does rely on on one bolt to hold the shank to fluke, but they now have a split pin as well as a nyloc nut to stop the risk of the nut coming off.

The shackle connecting the chain to the anchor relies on the same single screw thread and when properly secured is quite safe

[Pelagic]

yes... just kidding....I had read the whole thread and it seems to have been a one-off questionable event

[HopCar]

I had a chance to see the new Vulcan at the Ft. Lauderdale boat show a couple of weeks ago. They do not claim it is better than the Rocna. They do think it is the best non-roll bar anchor. All I can say is that it is a pretty anchor and looks like it will work well. I was very impressed by how clean and even the welds were. The same holds true for the Rocna.


There is a large segment of the market that can't carry a roll bar anchor because of how their anchor mounts. At the show, I sold a 44 kg Rocna to some nice folks up from Miami. When I delivered the anchor to the boat a few days later, I knew they would return it. It wouldn't hang right on their pulpit. They returned it a couple of days later after trying it. I wish I had had a Vulcan to sell them.


I have a Delta on my boat because it works well and it fits my pulpit nicely. Canada Metal promised me a Vulcan to try on my boat. As soon as I get my hands on it, I'll let you know how it works.

[colemj]

The Spade doesn't rely on that bolt for strength - the actual design of the shank/fluke interface locks the two together. The bolt doesn't take any force and is only to allow disassembly.

Mark

[zboss]

Maaaaaan.... I just bought a 55 pound spade for my boat!


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[Dockhead]

OK, kidding aside, I think that anchor looks great!

Another question, of course, is how it works. We'll need Noelex to do his thorough photo-documentation before we know for sure.

But here are some observations:

1. It's all cast! That's a good idea. How many of the weaknesses of modern anchors come from trying to form them out of plate. Like the stupid shank of the Rocna, which caused all the unpleasantness recently. This will be cheaper to make than the welded box-section used in the Spade, and maybe stronger, too.

2. Casting the fluke allows them to concentrate a mass near the tip. So although it looks a lot like the Spade, it's going to be cheaper to make without lead ballasting. And it will be possible to regalvanize it, unlike the Spade.

Otherwise, it's a shameless copy. But so what. Why not copy what's good?


I think all in all it looks like a winner. Look forward to hearing how it actually works.

[cwyckham]

Originally Posted by Pelagic

I hear you about the CQR…. (I have 3 of them!) …. but they do fit snugly into my bow design

For all you anchor gurus out there…

1……Are the new generation anchors REALLY that much better than the CQR?

And if so..

2….. Which new Gen would Anchor would you change to for my boat?

It depends where you live (anchors distribution and cost is very local): Europe: Spade (maybe ultra), North America: Boss, Australasia: Boss or Excel.

I have a Boss and like it so far. The new Vulcan is interesting, but it's still early days. I'm not sure I like a cast shank. Castings tend to be brittle and prone to inclusions. I prefer forging or plate.