Do we need to be preparing for Arctic cruising strategies because of Global Cooling

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

Okay then.

Based on that definition, here's my "climate" graph...

For Lincoln Nebraska snow depth, not temperature.

The one I presented was global temperature. Please pay attention.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Actually I got an A+ on that one

Nope. Sorry, your self-assessment skills really suck.

[StuM]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Hint

Climate - long term

Weather - short term

Is one month's data climate or weather?
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Is the one month of your pretty coloured world map climate or weather?

Show me a similar chart that shows how one 30 year period compares to another 30 year period and you will have a graphic representation of climate change. Anything which only shows a single months data is weather.

[Kalinka1]

Originally Posted by jackdale

A carbon tax is simply a means of putting a cost on excess CO2. Any company that has waste products in a liquid or solid form has to pay to have it properly disposed. Are invisible gases exempt just because we cannot see them in the air?

A carbon tax is collected from fossil-fuel companies upon the first sale at the mine, wellhead or port of entry.

The money collected via this fee would be distributed to the public as a monthly “dividend” or “green check.” Distributing all of the revenue equitably to households will ensure that families can afford the energy they need during the transition to a clean energy future, and it should help win public support for a rising carbon fee.

There is no government revenue and no corporate profit.

British Columbia has such system.

I havn't jumped in before but if you think the government is not going to make money of of this or that corporations aren't your head is in the sand. if someone isn't making money then it wouldn't be done!

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Nope. Sorry, your self-assessment skills really suck.

Nope my self assessment skills are spot on. Remember the truth is that I really don't give a rats donkey about what will happen in 50 years. My son is in Valhalla waiting for me when I get there. But until then Im going sailing.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by StuM

Is one month's data climate or weather?
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Is the one month of your pretty coloured world map climate or weather?

Show me a similar chart that shows how one 30 year period compares to another 30 year period and you will have a graphic representation of climate change. Anything which only shows a single months data is weather.

One month over a long term shows the climate for that month. Weather by definition is short term.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Nope my self assessment skills are spot on. Remember the truth is that I really don't give a rats donkey about what will happen in 50 years. My son is in Valhalla waiting for me when I get there. But until then Im going sailing.

Sorry about your son.

I do care about the future.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by StuM

Is one month's data climate or weather?
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Is the one month of your pretty coloured world map climate or weather?

Show me a similar chart that shows how one 30 year period compares to another 30 year period and you will have a graphic representation of climate change. Anything which only shows a single months data is weather.

BTW - The Koppen and Trewartha climate classification systems account for variation throughout the year.

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by jackdale

For Lincoln Nebraska snow depth, not temperature.

The one I presented was global temperature. Please pay attention.

Climate isn't just temperature. My snow graph has as much relevance as your temperature graph.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

Climate isn't just temperature. My snow graph has as much relevance as your temperature graph.

Actually reef IMO the snow graph is more important to the real world than any temperature. The amount of snowfall relates to the amount of moisture that is available for growing crops and watering animals.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

Climate isn't just temperature. My snow graph has as much relevance as your temperature graph.

I know but I thought we were comparing apples to apples.

Climate involves temperature, precipitation, winds, BP, humidity, etc as well as variations throughout the year over an interval of 30 years.

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by jackdale

I know but I thought we were comparing apples to apples.

Climate involves temperature, precipitation, winds, BP, humidity, etc as well as variations throughout the year over an interval of 30 years.

That would be chunks of apples to other chunks of apples. Like dissecting an apple pie.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

That would be chunks of apples to other chunks of apples. Like dissecting an apple pie.

You provided one single sterile seed.

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by jackdale

You provided one single sterile seed.

I LOL'd

[GoingWalkabout]

Originally Posted by jackdale

I know but I thought we were comparing apples to apples.

Climate involves temperature, precipitation, winds, BP, humidity, etc as well as variations throughout the year over an interval of 30 years.

Who decided on the arbitrary 30 years? Why not 75 years? Or why not 300 years?