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Old 10-05-2019, 08:46   #61
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Re: In a marina, what food items can / cant be thrown overboard

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Ask yourself "would you throw it in your garden at home?" Or are you one of those people that flings banana skins from the car as you drive along?
Yes and yes.

Why do you think biodegradable garbage is better in a landfill? Ideally, we would all separate our garbage into recyclable material and organic material, which we would compost in our gardens or in public composting bins (and make biogas at the same time).

Tossing vegetable matter in the sea from a few boats won't have any effect on the environment. In my region of Brazil, the tropical rain forest comes down the mountains to the water's edge (and often hangs over it). Imagine how many tons of leaves, branches and other organic matter goes into the ocean from the forest, especially after a rain. I think we sometimes lose sight of priorities...

Anyway, the OP was asking about tossing stuff in a marina. I suppose it would be better to put everything in the trash to avoid annoying your neighbours with floating potato peels and whatnot. I'm not sure there is much of an environmental argument to make concerning the tiny amount of organic waste produced by boats.[/QUOTE]

Do you have any idea how long it takes for a banana skin to rot? Decades!

Leaves and branches from trees are not the same as food waste disgarded by lazy people who can't be arsed to walk to the garbage and dispose of it properly. That's why we have a marine waste problem with plastics and other wastes.

Do you like sailing or living in a waste tip? Really?

Food waste should be composted where facilities exist but that does not give us the right to throw food into the sea willy nilly. If nothing else it attracts vermin (furry and feathered varieties)
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Re: In a marina, what food items can / cant be thrown overboard

A number of folks have stated that they didn't think there was any harm in tossing food waste overboard in marinas. Has anybody seen data that supports that claim?
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Do you have any idea how long it takes for a banana skin to rot? Decades!

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You're kidding me, right?

Seriously, why do you think a cabbage leaf or a potato peel in the sea is any different than the leaves, sticks and branches that fall into the sea?
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Re: In a marina, what food items can / cant be thrown overboard

Since legally it is 3 miles off shore to dump food waste overboard, what exactly other than aesthetics is the difference in a marina?
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I canít believe you think it acceptable to throw anything over board in a marina or anywhere for that matter. I donít throw anything overboard even when Iím out sailing or at a anchor. I put all waste in a thing called a garbage bag inside of a garbage bin that is kept under the sink. Then properly dispose of it once on land into an appropriate waste bin.
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Nothing except, screw drivers, nuts, bolts, washers, 12mm sockets ad the occasional outboard motor!
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Since legally it is 3 miles off shore to dump food waste overboard, what exactly other than aesthetics is the difference in a marina?
A marina is typically an enclosed and restricted waterway. It also likely has a high density of boaters. The biodiversity within is likely less, or certainly different, than surrounding open waters. As such, it should likely be treated differently than open waters.

As I say, it really shouldn’t be hard to know whether it is appropriate to heave your garbage over the side. If it’s an area of good flow/large volume, like when offshore, then it’s likely better environmentally to dump organics and biodegradable over the side. Otherwise, a landfill is likely the better option.
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I confess to having thrown stuff overboard in a marina. Well, not exactly thrown, but shall we say, released. OK, dropped. A few nuts and bolts, a small Crescent wrench, a stainless tube fitting, and a sword (don't ask).

Oh, my very much more careful wife had a strap break on her bag and donated an iPhone to deep. I guess it can happen to anyone.

This is one of the reasons I gave my GMT Master Pepsi to my Grandson and now sport a very serviceable Seiko.

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Since legally it is 3 miles off shore to dump food waste overboard, what exactly other than aesthetics is the difference in a marina?
The same people who write the laws are the same people who have to answer the phone when people call in to complain about stuff. On the one hand there are quite valid science/safety issues at play, on the other hand there are aesthetic issues that makes the phone ring. We are all familiar with rules/laws made mostly for regulatory expediency and this appears to be one of them.

If people really wanted to improve health and safety around marinas they'd outlaw alcohol, or a host of other things, before getting so excited about vegetable scraps in the water. But they don't.
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Nothing except, screw drivers, nuts, bolts, washers, 12mm sockets ad the occasional outboard motor!
How about an ATV? I was in one unnamed marina and someone forgot to engage the hand brake on the marinaís ATV. It was parked on a hill above the marina. I was awakened to a large splash and a sizeable wave as the thing dumped in the water, right beside our boat.

Spent the morning hours fishing the damn thing out. That was a lot worse than any table scraps.
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Yes and yes.

Why do you think biodegradable garbage is better in a landfill? Ideally, we would all separate our garbage into recyclable material and organic material, which we would compost in our gardens or in public composting bins (and make biogas at the same time).

Tossing vegetable matter in the sea from a few boats won't have any effect on the environment. In my region of Brazil, the tropical rain forest comes down the mountains to the water's edge (and often hangs over it). Imagine how many tons of leaves, branches and other organic matter goes into the ocean from the forest, especially after a rain. I think we sometimes lose sight of priorities...

Anyway, the OP was asking about tossing stuff in a marina. I suppose it would be better to put everything in the trash to avoid annoying your neighbours with floating potato peels and whatnot. I'm not sure there is much of an environmental argument to make concerning the tiny amount of organic waste produced by boats.
Do you have any idea how long it takes for a banana skin to rot? Decades!

Leaves and branches from trees are not the same as food waste disgarded by lazy people who can't be arsed to walk to the garbage and dispose of it properly. That's why we have a marine waste problem with plastics and other wastes.

Do you like sailing or living in a waste tip? Really?

Food waste should be composted where facilities exist but that does not give us the right to throw food into the sea willy nilly. If nothing else it attracts vermin (furry and feathered varieties)[/QUOTE]

Environmentally, food waste thrown overboard consumes O2 in the water, accelerates growth of algae(algae bloom) and lures wildlife normally not seen in marinas, amongst other problems.
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Re: In a marina, what food items can / cant be thrown overboard

Simple; NOTHING!!!!!!

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Questionable things:

Bacon grease, chicken / steak bones (dont know about these)

Obvious things:

veggie scraps

Feel free to add items.

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Unless youíre from Nigeria or Haiti....

Itís against the law! Find your Ďpolution placardí. Read it. It in NOT just concerning Petroleum.

There are five specific areas around the country.
1. No Discharge zone. (Which means NO, NADA, ZIP ZILCH. And is location dependent)
2. Less than 3 miles.
3. Less than 12 miles.
4. Less than 25 miles.
5. Past 25 miles.

Iím pretty sure sitting at your marina qualifies for either NDZ or Less than 3 miles.

So Nothing would be the correct answer.
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Do you have any idea how long it takes for a banana skin to rot? Decades!



At home, we compost banana peels along with all organic stuff from the kitchen. They are gone in a month or two.

Decades??? REALLY ??????
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Re: In a marina, what food items can / cant be thrown overboard

Obviously nothing but.. my dog alway leaves a few pieces of kibble in his bowl, or around the deck. I keep feeling that fish would eat this right up, and would be fine for the environment, and better for the fish (organic brand of course). However, it does look bad, and I suppose would be against marina rules. I'm talking about a few pea size nuggets.... what do other pet owners do about this?
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