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Old 04-11-2019, 04:01   #286
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Probably dangerous.

The jack up work barges used for offshore construction and the jackup oil rigs are fitted with ballast tanks sufficient to emulate the loading on each of the legs from all work and environmental loads. They are jacked up just clear of the water and then water is pumped into the ballast tanks. After the test loading the water is dumped and they are jacked up to their wave clearance height.

If that thing doesn't have a similar system it could topple over if one of the legs has a punch through.
Indeed, and he spuds only have a ram stroke of 18 feet. Not much elevation, in not much water - as Newhaul noted, perhaps ok for "a shallow shore on a lake".
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actually it appears to be steel below the waterline with an aluminum superstructure welded together via a steel to aluminum composite welding bar.
Well then, much better .

This would be an awesome base of operations for the next Water World movie. Put a few floating docks off the sides and it would be perfect .
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No it's not.

Lots of functions (including all cyclic functions) have increasing rates at certain stages.


Half of a sine curve displays increasing rates.

Ever heard of a logistic function?


Then there's hyperbolic functions and lots of other polynomial functions which meet the same criterion
They are exponentially increasing at certain stages. Whether the entire function is considered to be such depends on the totality of the curve. This is the problem with these kinds of analysis; you can cherry pick whatever part of the curve proves your particular point.

The fact is, all credible sources state the rate of sea level rise is increasing.
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...Well wherever one might end up, it sure as hell must be away from as many people as possible cause people suck.. and hungry people suck even more. So I am with the OP.. remote islands where only people with half a brain can get to (though some enterprising clown might load the last cruise ship with 10000 fat idiots and sell doomsday getaway tickets and crash your party in the Marquesas).. hmm damn this is a tough one!
Yup. Get away from the hordes. Find a place with small, self-reliant population that has decent local resources.

… then kiss your sweet @ss goodbye .
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I love SHTF scenarios. Here is one:
SHTF, prepper bugs out to South Pacific island on his prepped boat. Arrives somewhere nice intact (meaning it was some form of not global weather affecting SHTF). Anchor down in the lagoon, meet the locals:
Hi y'all, me prepper, come to live here. Blong oink churn wrum tong. Hey people, me prepper, I bring skills to this community. Wrum toak blejk frim. Yo people, can't you speak english like normal people? Ahnglish tok wrk. Parlevous francais? Prepper has rudimentary school french. Oui, oui, me prepper, live here. Ah, live here where? I need land, I know how to farm, repair anything, blacksmith, etc. Land communal property. Chiefs decision. Whaaaat? communism and totalitarian society? We religious, you need to be in church every day. Chief wants boat, everything you have, install solar panels on church, and work for priest. Me prepper, have guns you stupid people, now give me food and listen to rules. Democracy, constitution, freedom of religion. Wronk hum bas dluth. Prepper dies from poisoned food.
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Well then, much better .

This would be an awesome base of operations for the next Water World movie. Put a few floating docks off the sides and it would be perfect .
you mean like this version in the commercial division where the unit is the office and clubhouse?
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Re: Global catastrophe / SHTF "survivable locations"

Rumpie,

Imagining what does not work is easy. Figuring out what does work, not so much.

For me it’s more like..
“Hey Cuz, how ya making out? You need a ride across the Bay?”
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you mean like this version in the commercial division where the unit is the office and clubhouse?
Marina Dock Platform - Mansionyachts


I guess I shouldn’t have even joked about it
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you mean like this version in the commercial division where the unit is the office and clubhouse?
Marina Dock Platform - Mansionyachts

With that light tower and stupid flag shading the solar panels.
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Rumpie,

Imagining what does not work is easy. Figuring out what does work, not so much.

For me it’s more like..
“Hey Cuz, how ya making out? You need a ride across the Bay?”
Look, there are only two kinds of SHTF scenarios and only few responses to it.

1. Local SHTF. This we now very well how it plays out, it happens regularly in some part of the world. Just watch the news. Responses:

a) you flee to some part of the world where SHTF did not happen. Now you are a refugee and subject to whatever rules that society has for you. You are not entitled to anything, less of all your guns and your homecountries freedoms. Just make sure you go to a place that has a "refugees welcome" banner, not the place that puts you in a camp.

b) you stay put and ride it out. After the worst chaos is over you find some likeminded people and start rebuilding society.

2. Global SHTF. This has yet to happen. There is no place to run to, it's just as bad everywhere. If you survive the initial event you are in scenario 1.b. If some places are hit less and you hear about it and go there you are in scenario 1.a.
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I love SHTF scenarios. Here is one:
SHTF, prepper bugs out to South Pacific island on his prepped boat. Arrives somewhere nice intact (meaning it was some form of not global weather affecting SHTF). Anchor down in the lagoon, meet the locals:
Hi y'all, me prepper, come to live here. Blong oink churn wrum tong. Hey people, me prepper, I bring skills to this community. Wrum toak blejk frim. Yo people, can't you speak english like normal people?
There was one guy, back in the eighties, who was concerned about nuclear war, and was aware of the language problem.

So he decided to move to the Falklands, where he'd be safe.
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There was one guy, back in the eighties, who was concerned about nuclear war, and was aware of the language problem. So he decided to move to the Falklands, where he'd be safe.
We looked into that about five years ago. Island living isn't for everyone, but working with sheep is more enjoyable than working with humans. The current state of affairs for entry to FK is stringent - if you want to stay beyond your tourist visa. There are currently 47 nationalities on the three islands and the waiting list is endless. If you're from the UK you get priority.

Only two flights weekly bring the groceries, Brit military and the tourists.

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-ad...y-requirements
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We looked into that about five years ago. Island living isn't for everyone, but working with sheep is more enjoyable than working with humans. The current state of affairs for entry to FK is stringent - if you want to stay beyond your tourist visa. There are currently 47 nationalities on the three islands and the waiting list is endless. If you're from the UK you get priority.

Only two flights weekly bring the groceries, Brit military and the tourists.

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-ad...y-requirements
Well, if you're going to give it a try, try to about getting there three weeks before the Argentinian military does...
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There was one guy, back in the eighties, who was concerned about nuclear war, and was aware of the language problem.

So he decided to move to the Falklands, where he'd be safe.
Yeah, because the safest place to move to in case of nuclear war is one of the major players naval resuply bases, wich also happens to be disputed by the nearest regional power. How stupid does one have to be for that?
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The SAA is the major reason we avoided the place
https://heasarc.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/r...misc_saad.html
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