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Old 27-03-2024, 12:43   #1
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BC liveaboards don't qualify for tax credit

Recently when I was filling out my tax return this year it mentioned that renters in BC Canada can now qualify and apply for a tax credit for the first time (2023 return)
So I got the email info for contacting the Ministry of Finance regarding this and sent off an email asking how I can apply for this tax credit, since I am a liveaboard of just over 10 years now. My reply was a big no because it did not apply to the moorage cost of a boat. So I tried to explain the difference between annual moorage statements and monthly liveaboard statements in my marina. Once again I got no as a reply without any explanation other than a link to the BC government page covering the eligibility requirements.

It looks to me like the only way us liveaboards are going to even get consideration for this tax credit is if we compile a petition and submit it to the BC Ministry of Finance. But I have no idea as to how to proceed with getting an official petition going or even how to reach out to all the marina liveaboard who receive a separate monthly statement showing how much they owe for the month to month "privilege" of living on their boat in a particular marina in BC.
Any suggestions out there?
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Old 27-03-2024, 13:56   #2
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Re: BC liveaboards don't qualify for tax credit

Not going to happen.



Surely you realize that people on boats are all rich...


https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/t...0rental%20unit
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Old 27-03-2024, 14:20   #3
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Re: BC liveaboards don't qualify for tax credit

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Not going to happen.



Surely you realize that people on boats are all rich...


https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/t...0rental%20unit
Of course, that goes without saying. Plus ya gotta love how the Ministry of Finance points out, eligibility does not apply if you die before the end of the year. HAHAHA!!
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Old 05-10-2024, 15:54   #4
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Why even file a tax return, sure gst cheques are helpful but overall add peanuts to your annual income etc. Jumping thru hoops looking for ways to save taxes and hope for rebates is only playing the govt's corrupt game. Govt does not work for the people, never has and never will. Govt works for the actual true beneficiaries which are not and never have been, Canadian. Same with the USA, it is a Corporation and literally owned by private owners. It is registered in the City of London Crown Corp since 1776. Canada is managed and overseen by the British monarchy who are the managers of the Commonwealth under the City of London Crown corp who is the asset manager for....The Vatican Holy Sea Corp. This is where all Canadians taxes go, with an exception for some govt/public programs etc and whatever governing party doesn't skim off the top, and they all do. Think about all the govt waste, failed programs, exposed fraud, SCLavalin, Nortel, etc. This is our money being stolen by corrupt govt criminals, mafia criminals, govt is a racket, a scam, just a head office overseeing the racket throughout the country. I personally stay as far off the radar of the "govt" as I possibly can and once every 8-10 years I file a bunch of tax returns and get thousands back in past owed money, I do this so I never "owe" them a dime. Incidently, water is the jurisdiction of the Vatican Holy Sea, land is the jurisdiction of a living man/woman and comes with actual land titles/deeds, we Canadians, Americans etc do NOT have true title/deed to our properties, people like the English monarchy do etc, we pay property taxes after paying off the mortgage which is 100% proof we dont own our land's true title/deed otherwise we would pay ourselves right ? Lol
Progressing any rights for us liveaboard folk is a major battle, we basically have to change very old corrupt "systems of jurisdiction" to make any true gains. Govt on land appeases the people by bribing them with their own money, total sham and fraudulent as u can get, people are blind to the reality of this and buy into the whole election, Canada is sovereign, blah blah nonsense. Canada is a subject of the British monarchy who is managing the common "wealth" of the Vatican Holy Sea. Why PM always pledges to the damn Queen/King, not Canadians. People on water play by a totally different set of rules etc, international waters you can do a ton more without anybody overseeing you but that is open water, very difficult to do much then floating or sailing etc, any water along any shore is overseen and ruled over by a ton of insane so-called laws etc, yet the rules are not logical they are personal and private laws by a private entity, not any public one at that. Try building a dock for your new $10 million ocean front property, good luck, or build a new marina, good luck, but place a mooring ball, no prob just not in a shipping waterway etc.
Only way liveaboards and boaters will ever gain any real rights and be treated accordingly is by exposing and overcoming a very old and very hidden system we all live under but have no understanding of because it is hidden in plain sight from the public. Bias against boaters/liveaboards can be seen with the fact their is no "rest areas" for boaters, on land they're on every highway, not on the water, every dock is basically a paid one unless its some no amenities leisure type dock for small parks or what not. Where are all the public docks for boaters that you dont have to pay for ? All the govt docks I've seen charge money, which is insane considering its OUR money that built the things. Fisheries is in charge usually, harbour masters, but not for public good, to manage revenue and what's considered "govt private property", its a scam. Our wages are taxed and they should cover everything but we still have to pay on top, double taxing.
Think about the recent uproar over " gas stoves" etc in the media, banning gas stoves because of fake climate change blah blah, notice how it didnt apply to boats ? Lol millions of boats have gas stoves etc, the ban didnt include them because they are treated as a separate entity and go by separate regulations etc, yet climate change is so scary lol....just not scary enough to include boats gas stoves lol, it's all ridiculous and exposes the whole thing is a scam.
So WHY file a tax return ......you're already paying a ton to the Canadian Govt Mafia, tax returns are ways to milk more out of us for bs and only offer peanuts back of our own darn money......Boaters/Liveaboards need to unite and use our combined strength to force change, then we will see real progress, otherwise we never will.....

Sorry about the long reply, not meaning to give you a lecture, just inform the masses of the reality of the world we live in because boaters/liveaboards always run into the same constant issues and wonder why etc, respect and love, peace
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Why even file a tax return, sure gst cheques are helpful but overall add peanuts to your annual income etc. Jumping thru hoops looking for ways to save taxes and hope for rebates is only playing the govt's corrupt game. Govt does not work for the people, never has and never will. Govt works for the actual true beneficiaries which are not and never have been, Canadian. Same with the USA, it is a Corporation and literally owned by private owners. It is registered in the City of London Crown Corp since 1776. Canada is managed and overseen by the British monarchy who are the managers of the Commonwealth under the City of London Crown corp who is the asset manager for....The Vatican Holy Sea Corp. This is where all Canadians taxes go, with an exception for some govt/public programs etc and whatever governing party doesn't skim off the top, and they all do. Think about all the govt waste, failed programs, exposed fraud, SCLavalin, Nortel, etc. This is our money being stolen by corrupt govt criminals, mafia criminals, govt is a racket, a scam, just a head office overseeing the racket throughout the country. I personally stay as far off the radar of the "govt" as I possibly can and once every 8-10 years I file a bunch of tax returns and get thousands back in past owed money, I do this so I never "owe" them a dime. Incidently, water is the jurisdiction of the Vatican Holy Sea, land is the jurisdiction of a living man/woman and comes with actual land titles/deeds, we Canadians, Americans etc do NOT have true title/deed to our properties, people like the English monarchy do etc, we pay property taxes after paying off the mortgage which is 100% proof we dont own our land's true title/deed otherwise we would pay ourselves right ? Lol
Progressing any rights for us liveaboard folk is a major battle, we basically have to change very old corrupt "systems of jurisdiction" to make any true gains. Govt on land appeases the people by bribing them with their own money, total sham and fraudulent as u can get, people are blind to the reality of this and buy into the whole election, Canada is sovereign, blah blah nonsense. Canada is a subject of the British monarchy who is managing the common "wealth" of the Vatican Holy Sea. Why PM always pledges to the damn Queen/King, not Canadians. People on water play by a totally different set of rules etc, international waters you can do a ton more without anybody overseeing you but that is open water, very difficult to do much then floating or sailing etc, any water along any shore is overseen and ruled over by a ton of insane so-called laws etc, yet the rules are not logical they are personal and private laws by a private entity, not any public one at that. Try building a dock for your new $10 million ocean front property, good luck, or build a new marina, good luck, but place a mooring ball, no prob just not in a shipping waterway etc.
Only way liveaboards and boaters will ever gain any real rights and be treated accordingly is by exposing and overcoming a very old and very hidden system we all live under but have no understanding of because it is hidden in plain sight from the public. Bias against boaters/liveaboards can be seen with the fact their is no "rest areas" for boaters, on land they're on every highway, not on the water, every dock is basically a paid one unless its some no amenities leisure type dock for small parks or what not. Where are all the public docks for boaters that you dont have to pay for ? All the govt docks I've seen charge money, which is insane considering its OUR money that built the things. Fisheries is in charge usually, harbour masters, but not for public good, to manage revenue and what's considered "govt private property", its a scam. Our wages are taxed and they should cover everything but we still have to pay on top, double taxing.
Think about the recent uproar over " gas stoves" etc in the media, banning gas stoves because of fake climate change blah blah, notice how it didnt apply to boats ? Lol millions of boats have gas stoves etc, the ban didnt include them because they are treated as a separate entity and go by separate regulations etc, yet climate change is so scary lol....just not scary enough to include boats gas stoves lol, it's all ridiculous and exposes the whole thing is a scam.
So WHY file a tax return ......you're already paying a ton to the Canadian Govt Mafia, tax returns are ways to milk more out of us for bs and only offer peanuts back of our own darn money......Boaters/Liveaboards need to unite and use our combined strength to force change, then we will see real progress, otherwise we never will.....

Sorry about the long reply, not meaning to give you a lecture, just inform the masses of the reality of the world we live in because boaters/liveaboards always run into the same constant issues and wonder why etc, respect and love, peace
In respect to your mention of the Gov't and how it is run and controlled and owned by the wealthy. ( I may have embellished your wording slightly lol! ) A really good take on this is an old You Tube video of George Carlin "why I don't vote". He explains the "situation" quite well. It's an appropriate video to watch right now, given our up coming Provincial election. Unless you have sensitive ears.
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