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26-05-2018, 08:12
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
De-regulation is just a code word for allowing rich people to make even more profits off of middle class people, like banks gouging students with exorbitant interest rates, and for allowing big companies to dump polluting chemicals into our rivers, laces and oceans.
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26-05-2018, 22:00
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Niagara Falls
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
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26-05-2018, 22:16
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Wherever the wind takes me
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
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Originally Posted by jfischgrund
De-regulation is just a code word for allowing rich people to make even more profits off of middle class people, like banks gouging students with exorbitant interest rates, and for allowing big companies to dump polluting chemicals into our rivers, laces and oceans.
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The past 16 months in the US have certainly proven that.
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27-05-2018, 10:28
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: SC
Boat: None,build the one shown of glass, had many from 6' to 48'.
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
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Originally Posted by redsky49
The past 16 months in the US have certainly proven that.
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BS, lets get back to boats not politics.
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27-05-2018, 14:21
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#50
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Lake Ont
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
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Originally Posted by Cadence
BS, lets get back to boats not politics.
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...pretty hard to avoid politics in a thread like this one, going by the title.
Anyway, given the link in the OP, I expect that the focus is on commercial maritime regulations, and will have very little to do with recreational boating.
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04-06-2018, 09:24
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Location: Chesapeake Bay
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
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Originally Posted by taxwizz
What does MAGA mean?
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Mueller
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04-06-2018, 09:39
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#52
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: SC
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
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Originally Posted by Lake-Effect
...pretty hard to avoid politics in a thread like this one, going by the title.
Anyway, given the link in the OP, I expect that the focus is on commercial maritime regulations, and will have very little to do with recreational boating.
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True, as long as it stays away from opeds.
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04-06-2018, 09:58
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Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Alaska
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
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Originally Posted by Trekka
Mueller
Ain't
Goin'
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Sure, that’s it :-)
Isn't it amazing. All you have to do is mention one name and any thread goes viral?
To remain on topic maritime regulation definitely due for an overhaul, Jones Act in particular.
About time an administration at least considered simplifying.
Make America Great Again as a side note. I would wish the same for every country and people on earth. Be the best you can be every single day ;-)
If you are against that well good luck managing an offshore sailing vessel!
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04-06-2018, 10:45
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Location: BC
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
The problem with MAGA is that it has become synonymous with closing the borders to "those people" and an all white ruling class.
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04-06-2018, 11:16
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Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Alaska
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
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Originally Posted by bcboomer
The problem with MAGA is that it has become synonymous with closing the borders to "those people" and an all white ruling class.
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Every time I sail into another country I go through a legal procedure with severe penalties in the event I do not follow them.
I respect these countries and their laws and am thankful they permit me and my vessel to enjoy their homeland,
What is wrong with our country asking the same AND honoring those who choose to enter our country legally?
Is it a “Hispanic” thing in Central America or a “Black” thing in Africa or an “Asian” thing? No, it’s a “law” thing.
If you don’t think so try NOT clearing in at Isla Mujares next time and see how that works out for you ;-)
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06-06-2018, 18:00
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: W Florida
Boat: Still have the 33yo Jon boat. But now a CATAMARAN. Nice little 18' Bay Cat.
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
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Originally Posted by 01kiwijohn
I suspect that their emphasis will be on the myriad of overlapping and redundant regulations concerning commercial traffic but, having said that, I hope they do expend some effort on these local, on the water, "enforcement" agencies. Oftentimes well meaning, but incompetent, operators attempting to justify the expenditure of public funds on an ostentatious patrol boat of some type, long lusted after by the head of such agencies.
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Yep.
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06-06-2018, 18:15
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
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Originally Posted by bcboomer
The problem with MAGA is that it has become synonymous with closing the borders to "those people" and an all white ruling class.
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Yes, to many.
Those that have been brainwashed by the 85% of what is published and available to all.
The 15% other view is not that easy to find, I find.
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06-06-2018, 18:58
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Port Credit, Ontario or Bahamas
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
We as many other Canadians spent about $40,000 of our retirement money cruising in the US in the last year and have been doing it every other year or so for about 25yrs..... We may not do it again.
Under a cruising License we must report in to CPB every time we stop the boat. Now this rule has been in place for the 25yrs we've been cruising US waters but it has only been enforced in the last 18 months.
You simply would not believe some of the responses we've had when we call in.
"Chesapeake Beach ? You can't be there, there is no such place"
New Baltimore NY ? You can't be there, there is no such place"
"Albany ? Where's that ?
Dozens of phone calls to "number is not in service"
"Why are you calling me" .... Cause the last guy threatened to seize my boat if I didn't and the guy before that said I didn't have to call in at all.
Hours on the phone trying to connect with the right person.
"Why didn't you call in yesterday ? - cause I was anchored in a Georgia swamp and I couldn't get a cel signal - "That's not my problem, I'm issuing you a formal notice of violation. If you do it again it's a $10k fine and we'll take your boat".
I could cite another 100 examples but I'm sure you get the drift.
Apparently CPB does not want us to spend our retirement money in your country.
Is that "commerce" enough ?
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06-06-2018, 19:33
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: S. Fl.
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Posts: 54
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
The most accurate rule applied when dealing with Trump in discussion forums is the Dunning-Kruger effect< We're all f#(k~d!
In the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people of low ability have illusory superiority and mistakenly assess their cognitive ability as greater than it is. The cognitive bias of illusory superiority comes from the metacognitive inability of low-ability people to recognize their lack of ability; without the self-awareness of metacognition, low-ability people cannot objectively evaluate their actual competence or incompetence.[1] On the other hand, people of high ability incorrectly assume that tasks that are easy for them are also easy for other people.[2]
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06-06-2018, 19:33
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#60
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Boat: Van Helleman Schooner 65ft StarGazer
Posts: 10,280
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
Wow, boatpoker!
I never realized it was so ridiculous!
I only know the West Coast where It used to be so easy and friendly to go to the San Juan Islands and Seattle..wonder what its like now?
To be impartial, I think a lot more US cruisers spend more time and money in BC than vice versa.
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