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25-05-2018, 10:12
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
Hopefully they'll get rid of that TWIT card, sorry, I meant TWIC card. That is a seriously useless thing.
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25-05-2018, 10:35
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
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Originally Posted by wtmf
Also Trump should have Nikki Haley inform the countries of the world that all American vessels are sovereign and the captain and crew are within their rights to defend themselves from pirates using firearms and that those forearms will stay on the vessel so the host country is not threatened to be overthrown.
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ALL countries should adopt this stance.
There would be much less piracy.
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25-05-2018, 10:49
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
MAGA!!!
Thanks for taking care of Godwin’s Law early in the thread ;-)
About time someone dealt with this topic.
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25-05-2018, 11:03
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
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Originally Posted by wtmf
Also Trump should have Nikki Haley inform the countries of the world that all American vessels are sovereign and the captain and crew are within their rights to defend themselves from pirates using firearms and that those forearms will stay on the vessel so the host country is not threatened to be overthrown.
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Wao!... Do you think that the USA should rule the all other countries, impose its firearm openeness and impose the idea that 'Stand Your Ground' can be extended to all other countries?. Seen from outside, America has a huge firearm and an even greater problem with its perception of the real world. 30 thousand deaths by firearms per year should at least raise some toughts about the the consequence of this firearm liberal laws.
Your are unique regarding firearm issues, so please don't try to change the world to make it look like your 350 millions guns rich USA. By the way, just going hunting (with long guns)in USA requires a lot of paper works and controls at border, and I don't believe that travelling by boat in the States with guns is even thinkable!. That is good, as it is with all other countries that restrict firearm on board.
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25-05-2018, 11:13
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
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Originally Posted by akprb
MAGA!!!
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What does MAGA mean?
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25-05-2018, 11:13
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
I would expect that any changes will be more for the benefit of the large shipping companies than for us little guys. So far, most of the regulation cuts have been for the big corporations at the expense of the environment, or for privatizing schools so his big donors can make even more money. I do think the Jones act should be changed, but not to lower our standards, but to make all of the cruise ships that are based and run out of the United States use our regulations rather than the technical scam of being based here but running over to the Bahamas as a first stop or San Diego to Ensenada to avoid our laws. There are too many regulations but cutting should not be according to how much money is donated to either political party. I wonder when this thread will get shut down? ____Grant.
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25-05-2018, 11:26
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
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Originally Posted by taxwizz
What does MAGA mean?

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Make America Great Again. Trump's election catchphrase
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25-05-2018, 11:39
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
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Originally Posted by Seymore
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You posted it, it said commerce. Somehow, I don't think getting the locals out of you hair is relevant.
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25-05-2018, 11:40
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
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Originally Posted by sagablu
Keep in mind that the government's version of "simplify" and the usual usage of the word may be quite different. To put it another way, " I am from the government and I am here to help you". Believable? You decide.
My experiences with the Federal government are:
1) Bad
2) Worse than that
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Just remember the FAA’s favorite phrase.
“We’re not happy, until your not happy”
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25-05-2018, 11:51
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
i believe in wait n see what the clown in office is going to effect, then before effected. write write write and try to influence govt as we used to be able to do long ago when i was much younger.
input makes usa function properly.
no input no recourse
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25-05-2018, 12:09
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
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Originally Posted by zeehag
i believe in wait n see what the clown in office is going to effect, then before effected. write write write and try to influence govt as we used to be able to do long ago when i was much younger.
input makes usa function properly.
no input no recourse
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Keep it civil.
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25-05-2018, 12:30
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
i am keeping it civil. not all clowns are bad. some are actually funny.
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25-05-2018, 14:06
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
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Originally Posted by wtmf
Also Trump should have Nikki Haley inform the countries of the world that all American vessels are sovereign and the captain and crew are within their rights to defend themselves from pirates using firearms and that those forearms will stay on the vessel so the host country is not threatened to be overthrown.
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Then why not reciprocity, and all foreing vessels are sovereing when in Us waters, and carry as much registerd ( in their country of origin) guns as they like. That will never happen.
Once you see how homeland agents (borders , customs,...) treat turists in any port of entry to US , don't pretend to be treated politely when you travel abroad.
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25-05-2018, 14:44
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
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Originally Posted by CaptJamesCook
NO Santa hummmm. 
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We believe! We believe!!
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25-05-2018, 14:57
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Re: Trump looking to simplify regulations
Quote:
Originally Posted by wtmf
Also Trump should have Nikki Haley inform the countries of the world that all American vessels are sovereign and the captain and crew are within their rights to defend themselves from pirates using firearms and that those forearms will stay on the vessel so the host country is not threatened to be overthrown.
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That's sounds logical, however I believe it may be more on the economic side. Maybe as small as how many ABs are required onboard a US flagged ship. Maybe something allowing ship building to return to the States?
Trump is a business man. He would probably be the first to admit he knows nothing about shipping.
I had a friend that was asked to be, and was, on the board of directors for a large Ship Yard. His comment was I know nothing about that business, it was his business expertise not his ship yard knowledge.
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