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21-02-2021, 12:29
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 6
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Complete new instrumentation needed
I bought a Beneteau Oceanis 41.1 YR 2016. Massive theft prior to when I bought it and all the instruments are gone. So it came with B&G but I am open to different brand. Need chart plotter, autopilot ram/brain, wind/depth/speed, VHF fixed and handheld, AIS, and ???? Anyone have a good source to get decent pricing? I would be having it shipped to Miami then on to St. Maarten. Thanks in advance for your feedback
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21-02-2021, 19:48
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Southport CT
Boat: Sabre 402
Posts: 2,887
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Re: Complete new instrumentation needed
Bummer getting ripped off like that. Try Defender Marine for decent electronics pricing. We got ours there.
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21-02-2021, 19:58
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 750
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Re: Complete new instrumentation needed
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Originally Posted by grboregon
I bought a Beneteau Oceanis 41.1 YR 2016. Massive theft prior to when I bought it and all the instruments are gone. So it came with B&G but I am open to different brand. Need chart plotter, autopilot ram/brain, wind/depth/speed, VHF fixed and handheld, AIS, and ???? Anyone have a good source to get decent pricing? I would be having it shipped to Miami then on to St. Maarten. Thanks in advance for your feedback
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In general, retail margins on marine electronics are REALLY thin, so real opportunities for significant discounts on the current line products are rare. If you see a price that is too good to be true... well you know.
BUT... as has already been mentioned, Defender frequently has models that are at, or approaching, the end of their sales cycle rolled up into packages that can offer pretty good discounts. We got a good portion of our kit that way, and B&G & Defender were excellent about one minor warrantee issue.
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21-02-2021, 20:00
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: North Atlantic
Posts: 471
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Re: Complete new instrumentation needed
I’m sure someone has some used stuff they’d like to sell quick. It might have originally come off an Oceanis. Oh wait...
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22-02-2021, 10:12
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Moored in Anacortes, Wa
Boat: Rawson 30PH
Posts: 267
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Re: Complete new instrumentation needed
Defender is good, also some deals on Hodges Marine
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22-02-2021, 10:21
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Seattle = Home Base
Boat: Hanse 505 50'
Posts: 282
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Re: Complete new instrumentation needed
Can’t say it will be a deal, but I like the functionality of my B&G suite.
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22-02-2021, 10:22
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: On Barnegat Bay in NJ
Boat: Hunter 40.5 and C+C36
Posts: 240
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Re: Complete new instrumentation needed
Bummer on the instruments. I got all new instruments twice because of a lightning strikes. I hope insurance will cover your loss. I like Garmin and Raymarine. I found Garmin would work with an old Raymarine electric autopilot drive, i.e. I replaced the brains. I have also mixed Garmin NEMA 2000 with Raymarine SeaTalk ng. Of course the connectors are different. They can be inbterconnected by splicing the same color wires. Garmin uses N2000 transducers while Raymarine uses analog transducers all feeding a converter box. Thus you can use, for example, an old depth transducer. I have a Garmin 5212 chart plotter which I like. I have a friend with one for sale for a good price. Contact me if interested.
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22-02-2021, 11:02
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: San Leon, Texas
Boat: Knysna 440 once I get my new dock and the canal gets dredged
Posts: 914
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Re: Complete new instrumentation needed
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Originally Posted by grboregon
I bought a Beneteau Oceanis 41.1 YR 2016. Massive theft prior to when I bought it and all the instruments are gone. So it came with B&G but I am open to different brand. Need chart plotter, autopilot ram/brain, wind/depth/speed, VHF fixed and handheld, AIS, and ???? Anyone have a good source to get decent pricing? I would be having it shipped to Miami then on to St. Maarten. Thanks in advance for your feedback
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I hope you got a steep discount with no instruments. If so, this is kind of a nice problem to have as you are free to pick what you want. NKE, a French company which has been around awhile and is well respected in the commercial industry, was offering their complete package for $7,000 US. including the N2K harness but not including radar as I recall. I'm told that many people prefer the B&G displays to Raymarine and apparently they cost about the same. The other player is Garmin but their support drops off pretty quick due to their built in obsolescence policy. In any event, you can avoid incompatibility with a complete new system.
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22-02-2021, 11:17
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: San Leon, Texas
Boat: Knysna 440 once I get my new dock and the canal gets dredged
Posts: 914
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Re: Complete new instrumentation needed
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Originally Posted by j.g.evans
Bummer on the instruments. I got all new instruments twice because of a lightning strikes. I hope insurance will cover your loss. I like Garmin and Raymarine. I found Garmin would work with an old Raymarine electric autopilot drive, i.e. I replaced the brains. I have also mixed Garmin NEMA 2000 with Raymarine SeaTalk ng. Of course the connectors are different. They can be inbterconnected by splicing the same color wires. Garmin uses N2000 transducers while Raymarine uses analog transducers all feeding a converter box. Thus you can use, for example, an old depth transducer. I have a Garmin 5212 chart plotter which I like. I have a friend with one for sale for a good price. Contact me if interested.
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The loss was on the PO. The OP bought the boat post rip off.
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22-02-2021, 11:29
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#10
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Aboard (Victoria, BC, Canada
Boat: Fountaine Pajot, Eleuthera, 60ft
Posts: 33
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Re: Complete new instrumentation needed
....................as a veteran sailor, do you really need all that stuff? ..possible status symbol? Just equip yourself with a quality Pad, I Pad or similar that is equipped with real GPS and e charts...it will provide all the information you'll need for sailing. ..weather, etc etc And a set of binoculars.
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22-02-2021, 11:35
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Little River, SC
Boat: Grand Banks Europa 42
Posts: 30
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Re: Complete new instrumentation needed
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Originally Posted by grboregon
I bought a Beneteau Oceanis 41.1 YR 2016. Massive theft prior to when I bought it and all the instruments are gone. So it came with B&G but I am open to different brand. Need chart plotter, autopilot ram/brain, wind/depth/speed, VHF fixed and handheld, AIS, and ???? Anyone have a good source to get decent pricing? I would be having it shipped to Miami then on to St. Maarten. Thanks in advance for your feedback
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What BillKny said about pricing. One dealer I spoke with in person in MA said the mfg’s have more or less “price fixed” their retail pricing to match their catalog list prices, essentially to maintain a level playing field for retailers. Supposedly there’s some legislation that was lobbied by the industry and passed to allow this pricing model.
I’m planning to buy my electronics from The GPS Store, http://thegpsstore.com
Mainly because I live a few towns away in SC and sales tax is slightly less if picked up.
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22-02-2021, 12:24
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Annapolis
Boat: O’Day 40
Posts: 215
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Re: Complete new instrumentation needed
I just replaced my electronics (Ap, chart plotter) etc this past week. What I found is that if you want the new gear it is all fair traded & you won’t find any breaks. Last years or previous models can be a different story though. Went w/Raymarine gear as they had the most cost effective setup between the chart plotter $ AP setup- they have a decent sale going on now & I heard from one too many installers that support from B&G was sketchy.
Was disappointed that I couldn’t find any company’s reasonably priced setup that had knobs instead of touchscreens. Amazingly. I ordered the gear from Defender late in the day on Friday & it showed up in DC the next day. Probably dumb luck, but I like trading with them.
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22-02-2021, 12:34
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Boat: Tayana Vancouver 42ac
Posts: 1,244
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Re: Complete new instrumentation needed
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Originally Posted by grboregon
I bought a Beneteau Oceanis 41.1 YR 2016. Massive theft prior to when I bought it and all the instruments are gone. So it came with B&G but I am open to different brand. Need chart plotter, autopilot ram/brain, wind/depth/speed, VHF fixed and handheld, AIS, and ???? Anyone have a good source to get decent pricing? I would be having it shipped to Miami then on to St. Maarten. Thanks in advance for your feedback
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One thing to consider is that the background/pods for the instruments you select may very well be of different sizes than the originals. If so you may have to consider also having to purchase new instrument/accessory pods/background as well as their mountings. Nothing is easy when you start changing brands.
~ ~ _/) ~ ~ MJH
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22-02-2021, 12:36
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Montreal
Boat: Bristol 27 #182, MystereS 17' Catamaran #531
Posts: 175
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Re: Complete new instrumentation needed
I'm building a system using OpenMarine https://openmarine.net/ and a Raspberry Pi 4.
I'm going to keep track of the build, time and expenses, but I suspect it will be much cheaper than buying dedicated instruments.
I already have OpenCPN installed on a Mac as a backup...
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Montreal, QC
Looking forward to sailing on Lake Ontario this summer...
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22-02-2021, 12:40
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#15
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Annapolis
Boat: Hylas 49
Posts: 1,150
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Re: Complete new instrumentation needed
Raymarine has rebates right now for large purchases.
Can you buy from the Carribbean chandleries such as Budget Marine?
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