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09-04-2011, 18:30
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Re: And So It Begins... Knottybuoyz' New Project
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'Round and 'round we go!
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Laid out like that this boat is going to be huge! There won't be a whole lotta room to move around in the shed once it's on the strongback. That worries me a bit but I'll have to live with it.
Next I looked at the cabin side and how I'm going to handle the extension. It would have been nice to get the panels without the windows cut. It would have been easier to splice in the 39" extension. Anyhow, the windows are cut so I'll deal with it later. I get the feeling Mr. Planer, Mr. Grinder and Mr. Belt Sander are going to be my best friends on this project.
That's about it for today's boat building activities folks. I'm knackered, pooped, scroodled and pretty much toast! Carry on without me......
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Maybe you could place that timber under the saw horses so you dont trip over it
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10-04-2011, 03:41
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Re: And So It Begins... Knottybuoyz' New Project
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Maybe you could place that timber under the saw horses so you dont trip over it 
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Now that just makes waaaaaaaaaaaay tooooooooo much sense!
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10-04-2011, 09:21
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Re: And So It Begins... Knottybuoyz' New Project
Unless you need to move the horses at some point then it makes a PITA,
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10-04-2011, 09:28
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Re: And So It Begins... Knottybuoyz' New Project
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Unless you need to move the horses at some point then it makes a PITA, 
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They won't be there long. As soon as the long panels are all glued up I'll have to make way for the strongback.
I've committed my first "Act of Epoxy"! I guess there's no turning back now!
Joints lined up, peel ply & release film ready to go.
Clamped in place. We'll find out tomorrow night if I've been successful or not.
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10-04-2011, 10:35
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Re: And So It Begins... Knottybuoyz' New Project
Remember epoxy shrinks a little when it cures. And try to keep as much air bubbles out as you can. Use a slow stirring in a figure 8 and scrape the sides a couple times.
If you mix more then a cup at a time keep it moving or get it on quickly before it starts to heat up. Once its hot it's too late. For a large area/amounts, where it will not run too fast, I found if you just pour it on and then spread it out. Or if it's shallow in a pan, like a paint roller, then it doesn't kick too fast.
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10-04-2011, 12:30
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Re: And So It Begins... Knottybuoyz' New Project
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Remember epoxy shrinks a little when it cures. And try to keep as much air bubbles out as you can. Use a slow stirring in a figure 8 and scrape the sides a couple times.
If you mix more then a cup at a time keep it moving or get it on quickly before it starts to heat up. Once its hot it's too late. For a large area/amounts, where it will not run too fast, I found if you just pour it on and then spread it out. Or if it's shallow in a pan, like a paint roller, then it doesn't kick too fast.
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For the larger jobs we'll use the static mixer on the dispenser I bought. That'll eliminate a lot of errors and (supposedly) guarantee no bubbles in the mix. We'll see.
I'm planning on using the paint tray method when we get to the larger jobs. I've even read of some guys who use two trays, one filled with ice and the other with the mixed epoxy sits on top of that to keep it cool. Depends on the conditions I guess.
See, I learned a few things by watching you guys on here!
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10-04-2011, 14:37
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Re: And So It Begins... Knottybuoyz' New Project
WTG Rick!
I usually use the fast cure catalyst until the temps get up to 70º F (21 for you Canooks) then switch over to the slow cure unless it's a small 1-2 oz batch.
Just keep it out of the direct sun on the hot days.
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10-04-2011, 14:45
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Re: And So It Begins... Knottybuoyz' New Project
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WTG Rick!
Just keep it out of the direct sun on the hot days.
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Shouldn't be too hard Rick's in Canada.
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10-04-2011, 14:58
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Re: And So It Begins... Knottybuoyz' New Project
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Shouldn't be too hard Rick's in Canada. 
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Wise cracker! We got global warming up here too!
It normally gets into the mid-high 90's in July but add 100% humidity to that and it gets downright nasty! August is normally a little better so I booked off all of August.
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11-04-2011, 15:49
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Success! Flipped and glassed the seams on the other side. Sorry no pics.
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11-04-2011, 17:01
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Re: And So It Begins... Knottybuoyz' New Project
Good stuff on the seams Rick. Sorry about the crack but I couldn't help myself. I've only been to BC and I don't think it gets up to 90 degrees there very often.
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11-04-2011, 17:03
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Re: And So It Begins... Knottybuoyz' New Project
Not out here on the coast it doesn't. Sigh. It gets pretty hot in the interior though.
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11-04-2011, 17:16
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Re: And So It Begins... Knottybuoyz' New Project
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Not out here on the coast it doesn't. Sigh. It gets pretty hot in the interior though.
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We do get a few extreme days in July or Aug. though but they don't last long.
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11-04-2011, 17:18
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Re: And So It Begins... Knottybuoyz' New Project
Good luck and keep us posted.
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12-04-2011, 07:11
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Re: And So It Begins... Knottybuoyz' New Project
You know the old saying: "Nowhere to go but up"? Well I got "nowhere to go but out".
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