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06-06-2018, 11:33
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Slipped rudder..
Well it seems the Hanse Voorsprungcrappydeutschtechniqe continues..
For some reason the starboard rudder decided to slip downwards and will not pull back up into place so the delivery is delayed till at least Friday when we are lifted out to inspect and try to rectify the problem.. hopefully it can be restored to the correct position and we can continue.
Seems a very fragile cowboyish setup.. all that seems to hold it in place are three grub screws that tighten onto a flush surface.. no little indent to bite into..
The Germans may be big in cars but Oh my Gawd with boats..
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06-06-2018, 13:04
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Re: Slipped rudder..
OOOOh, Mon, Boatie, you're going to be in bad trouble, breaking the owner's Hanse!
Hope they're able to make a good fix, quickly.
Ann
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06-06-2018, 13:08
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Re: Slipped rudder..
Yep, the rudders on BMWs and Mercs seldom give any trouble at all!
That is pretty shabby construction IMO...
Jim
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06-06-2018, 14:39
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Re: Slipped rudder..
Quote:
Originally Posted by JPA Cate
OOOOh, Mon, Boatie, you're going to be in bad trouble, breaking the owner's Hanse!
Hope they're able to make a good fix, quickly.
Ann
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Moody by name only.. Hanse by build..
Luckily the owner (fellow CF member) is my crew along with son in law so they know its nothing we have done.
Seems a flaw in the rudder systems design.. Jefa steering according to the markings.. one side has slipped down far enough to expose all the top bearings.
Thought things were going too well.. 1000nm in 7 days including a night in La Coruna..
The gods have a wicked sense of humour..
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You can't beat a people up (for 75yrs+) and have them say..
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06-06-2018, 20:51
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Re: Slipped rudder..
Got any pictures?
I love pictures.
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1962 Columbia 29 MKI #37
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06-06-2018, 23:08
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Re: Slipped rudder..
Just for you Don... one off how it should look and two off how it shouldn't..
Not much to see down below.. apart from the stressed out linkage.
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07-06-2018, 18:06
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Re: Slipped rudder..
Thanks Boatman for indulging me!
Now which ones are the "wrong" and which one is "right?"
Sometimes I really like my inefficient old bronze post keel-hung rudder.....that hasn't been touched in 50 years...
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Pythagoras
1962 Columbia 29 MKI #37
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08-06-2018, 01:24
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Re: Slipped rudder..
The one with the strap (blue) holding it up.. if you look closely you can even see the bearings either side.
The one without the strap holding it up is the good one.. note how flush to the top it is.. and unsupported to boot.
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You can't beat a people up (for 75yrs+) and have them say..
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08-06-2018, 05:32
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Re: Slipped rudder..
Ahhh, you don't need that "extra" rudder anyway. Just sail on one tack, so the busted one is out of the water!!!
Bill O.
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08-06-2018, 14:56
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Re: Slipped rudder..
Bottom bearings shot.. on the hard awaiting new bits from Hanse/Jefa..
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You can't beat a people up (for 75yrs+) and have them say..
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While the 'useful idiots' of the West pay to dance to the beat of the apartheid drums.
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12-06-2018, 23:06
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Re: Slipped rudder..
Well.. Gotta recommend Jefa Steering for speedy customer service..
Part sent Monday.. arrived yesterday and with luck fitted and launched today.. then as soon as we clear the slings its pedal to the metal for Gib..
Got 7 days to make up..
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You can't beat a people up (for 75yrs+) and have them say..
"I Love You.. ". Murray Roman.
While the 'useful idiots' of the West pay to dance to the beat of the apartheid drums.
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13-06-2018, 00:50
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Re: Slipped rudder..
Buen viaje, mi amigo.
Ann
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13-06-2018, 04:07
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Re: Slipped rudder..
I missed the beginning, what boat, year and model are you delivering?
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27-06-2018, 03:19
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Re: Slipped rudder..
2009 Moody 45DS.. A very sexy 3 cabin plus pilothouse sloop..
Now sitting at a bar in Patri, Greece killing time while the American owner does his clearing in and gets his cruising permit..
He loved Malta..
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You can't beat a people up (for 75yrs+) and have them say..
"I Love You.. ". Murray Roman.
While the 'useful idiots' of the West pay to dance to the beat of the apartheid drums.
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27-06-2018, 04:52
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Re: Slipped rudder..
Err, thought you were going to Gib, but instead your lounging around in Greece.
Pete
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