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19-08-2009, 06:38
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Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Question About Cabin Space
I've just begun to poke around yachtworld (even though I'm a couple years away from a purchase) and I had a question about cabins.
Since I plan to adopt an entirely different lifestyle in the years ahead, the sort that sees me living aboard my boat, I have to ask....are boats (cruisers) with some real cabin space rare?
Do they all have lousy fold out beds that would be really rough on the back week in, week out (month in, month out, year in, year out)? Maybe I'm dreaming, but I had hoped it could have a real bedroom (large enough anyways to have a nice, comfortable matress - that's all I care about), and maybe a secondary place where the "kitchen table" folds out into a bed.
Am I dreaming or what?
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19-08-2009, 06:47
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Eternal Member
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Boat: Simpson, Catamaran, 46ft. IMAGINE
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19-08-2009, 06:53
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I'm not rich; I'd be looking to spend less than $100,000 for sure. Probably considerably less.
Just to be clear, I'm not talking about a BEDROOM, just room for a decent matress that is comfortable to sleep on.
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19-08-2009, 07:05
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Eternal Member
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You can find a very comfortable boat for that money. I know of one here in Florida. It's practically turnkey if you take into consideration it needs some varnish work..... i2f
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19-08-2009, 07:08
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: San Antonio, TX/Bocas del Toro, Panama
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While our boat is above your budget, it's only a 2 cabin boat. The master has a nearly queen (slightly narrower), and the guest cabin actually has its own settee, and a queen width bunk at the head. We also have 6'6" headroom. Here's some info:
MACINTOSH 47 Sailboat details on sailboatdata.com (units English)
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19-08-2009, 07:12
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Any decent sized-boat will have all of the things you specify. New or used, though, you'll probably want to replace or supplement the mattress if you really want to be comfortable (personally I can sleep on the floor with no problem, but it's clear even to me that boat mattresses are not the best). I bought a big (queen sized) piece of memory foam for $80 at an online auction site (you know the one) for the sofabed in my den, and together with the original mattress it makes things pretty comfortable...
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19-08-2009, 07:23
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Okay, guys, thanks. That's all I need to know for now. I dont mind having the typicallycramped space of a cabin, but I just cant sacrifice by back with a lousy seat cushion matress! lol.
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19-08-2009, 07:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by imagine2frolic
You can find a very comfortable boat for that money.
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Yeah? I assume you mean $100,000. What if I was looking at spending more in the 60-70 K range?
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19-08-2009, 07:35
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Eternal Member
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You can still find a comfortable boat in that range. You can always have a mattress custom made for under $500 to help your back. We have a posturepedic, and custome made mattress......i2f
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19-08-2009, 07:40
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Having tried it before, I expect to add a 2" memory foam topper to any bed mattress when I do purchase. Makes a big difference to the comfort level.
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19-08-2009, 08:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Green23
Yeah? I assume you mean $100,000. What if I was looking at spending more in the 60-70 K range?
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Yes.
1984 Hunter Legend 40 asking 54,995:
1984 Hunter Legend Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
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19-08-2009, 14:06
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Toronto, Canada on Lake Ontario
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For what its worth, Ive been sleeping on an air mattress now for about 5 years overall. I started when I went to school in Phoenix AZ for 4 months and couldn't be bothered to buy furniture for so short a stay, especially with an unknown destination at the end of it all. As it was I returned home and put the airmattress up on the packing crate I used as a bed (long story there). After a while I bought a town house and a proper bed frame. I wore out one mattress in about a year and went back to my airmattress.
Anyway, if the boat has a double, I find that a twin airmattress works just peachy, and with my back problems this is the most comfortable sleep I've had in a long time. Now if I could just figure out how to make a Vee berth air mattress I'd be in hog heaven.
Sabre
105 days n a wake up.
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19-08-2009, 14:21
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Eastern Shore, MD
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We upgraded the foam in our vberth to "Ultra Foam" , ie high quality foam, and the difference is amazing!
Chris
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19-08-2009, 14:55
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Carlsbad, CA
Boat: 1976 Sabre 28-2
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A four inch hard foam mattress is more than comfortable for me and I'm working on my 2nd back operation. Of course, find the typical plushy bed to be very uncomfortable. The memory foam mattresses works for our home bed but you'd have to find one that's not so thick. Possibly a 2" foam mattress topper that someone else has suggested would do the trick over a thinner foam cushion.
FWIW, the hunter berth pictured above would be great for a condo but absolutely worthless as a sea berth. Real sea boats are not floating condo's.
Aloha
Peter O.
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19-08-2009, 15:14
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Location: Lakeland, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roverhi
FWIW, the hunter berth pictured above would be great for a condo but absolutely worthless as a sea berth. Real sea boats are not floating condo's.
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On the old H40s you use the settees with lee cloths for sea berths. There are also straps you can use to sort of divide the V berth. At anchor for most people that aft bed is to die for; and since it's centerline, you don't have to crawl over your partner to get out of it.
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