Part 2 - Columbia 29 refit, in the Rocky Mountains

[406Columbia]

Originally Posted by newhaul

looking good .
Wonder just how much you have added to the boat . I say at least half a ton . Will be great to see her finished and sailing where we all want to be .

Newhaul,


Maybe so, I can go back through my records and count up the gallons of epoxy just a guess its got to be five or six gallons and a few rolls of chopped strand and biaxial mat for all the repairs and fortifications.

[Don C L]

Came back Sunday from a quick local overnight trip, and averaged a hair under 7 knots on the way back with a single reef in the main and working jib on a beam reach in about 20-25 knots, just to give you a taste of what's ahead for you!
Sure was fun!

[406Columbia]

Originally Posted by Don C L

Came back Sunday from a quick local overnight trip, and averaged a hair under 7 knots on the way back with a single reef in the main and working jib on a beam reach in about 20-25 knots, just to give you a taste of what's ahead for you!
Sure was fun!

Don,

We cannot wait, sounds like a great sail. I was so impressed with how well your boat or should I say our boat handled when we went out.

Just remembered we are in the market for self tailing winches, anyone have any vendors online they got good prices through? Thinking Lewmar, but open to others.

[406Columbia]

got some welding done, need to bend the stainless rod and then cut it down and weld it up some more. The new wing is for the Raymarine wind instrument.

[406Columbia]

Made some progress on the mast head piece, bent the rod,ended up getting it cut down to the right length. Still need to weld it a bit more, drilled the wing for the wind instrument mount. Picked up a few short pieces of hardware to attach it today.

Also, got tons of Interlux e2000 barrier coat paint on the boat. Starting to feel real. A few areas to touch up and need to do the inside of the cockpit but that is easy. Slow but getting there.

[406Columbia]

Anyone with similar size boat mind sharing what size winches they are running? We want to go maybe a size larger so are thinking instead of Lewmar 30's we would consider a size 40. But wanted to see what other folks had success using.

Also, while we were out motoring on the RIB we saw another family with a 1962 Columbia 29 anchored out. So we swung by and said hello, great folks. They showed us around their boat and the kids had a good chat as well. We made tentative plans to head out to Catalina sometime when were finally in the water.

What I did find interesting was their C29 had a baby stay, they said it was to prevent "pumping"? Never seen another C29 with it so was curious if anyone had any thoughts on that, perhaps their mast arch allows more flex? Or maybe this is something we will encounter, I guess we will find out.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by 406Columbia

Anyone with similar size boat mind sharing what size winches they are running? We want to go maybe a size larger so are thinking instead of Lewmar 30's we would consider a size 40. But wanted to see what other folks had success using.

Also, while we were out motoring on the RIB we saw another family with a 1962 Columbia 29 anchored out. So we swung by and said hello, great folks. They showed us around their boat and the kids had a good chat as well. We made tentative plans to head out to Catalina sometime when were finally in the water.

What I did find interesting was their C29 had a baby stay, they said it was to prevent "pumping"? Never seen another C29 with it so was curious if anyone had any thoughts on that, perhaps their mast arch allows more flex? Or maybe this is something we will encounter, I guess we will find out.

never seen a 29 with a baby stay but I was considering adding one to run the jib off my old snipe as a cutter rig . Did it on my 24 and gained a half knot .
I'm running barient 22's with winchards works great I will try to remember to take pictures.

[Don C L]

Yes I have seen baby stays but not on 29s but I am not surprised. Many owners added two more lower shrouds. I am not sure if I'd go the baby stay route if I were concerned about pumping. I'd be wary of adding something to run into or trip on on the bow, and I haven't seen much pumping problem (the mast bowing in the middle since there are only single lowers) yet myself. When I first got my 24 I assumed I'd have to do something about it, but then I went sailing and just kept going. Same with my current 29, no major problem yet, but if I decide to do it I'll probably add 2 lowers. But if they like it and it solves a problem then great! A '62 eh? I wonder which # and what was the name? Is that Dana Point? Did she have a dark blue hull?

[406Columbia]

Originally Posted by newhaul

never seen a 29 with a baby stay but I was considering adding one to run the jib off my old snipe as a cutter rig . Did it on my 24 and gained a half knot .
I'm running barient 22's with winchards works great I will try to remember to take pictures.

Thanks Rob

[406Columbia]

Originally Posted by Don C L

Yes I have seen baby stays but not on 29s but I am not surprised. Many owners added two more lower shrouds. I am not sure if I'd go the baby stay route if I were concerned about pumping. I'd be wary of adding something to run into or trip on on the bow, and I haven't seen much pumping problem (the mast bowing in the middle since there are only single lowers) yet myself. When I first got my 24 I assumed I'd have to do something about it, but then I went sailing and just kept going. Same with my current 29, no major problem yet, but if I decide to do it I'll probably add 2 lowers. But if they like it and it solves a problem then great! A '62 eh? I wonder which # and what was the name? Is that Dana Point? Did she have a dark blue hull?

Don,

I like your idea, I would rather add additional lowers than a baby stay to keep things less busy towards the bow. Wouldn't be hard to do at all once you locate a suitable bulkhead or anchor point to attach the additional chain plate. Now would be the time to do it, however I prefer not to make more work if its not a problem. I suppose it would add some rig redundancy though.

The C29 is indeed dark blue hull paint and they have taken great care of her. The interior wood was beautiful still.

[Don C L]

Was it Volador? They have her in the Registry on here:
Columbia Yacht Owners Association
Hull 39! only a few hours, or minutes, younger than mine.
I think I see the baby stay in the photo there. Was it anchored to the front of the cabin? If that is it, there is such a low angle I can't imagine it does too much but I'd have to see it in action.

[406Columbia]

Originally Posted by Don C L

Was it Volador? They have her in the Registry on here:
Columbia Yacht Owners Association
Hull 39! only a few hours, or minutes, younger than mine.
I think I see the baby stay in the photo there. Was it anchored to the front of the cabin? If that is it, there is such a low angle I can't imagine it does too much but I'd have to see it in action.

That sure appears to be the same boat, and yes if memory serves me correctly that's the spot it was anchored on. They have a new owner though. I like the idea of additional lowers and keeping as much deck space as possible if it's needed.

[406Columbia]

This is the current motivation, to finally see the boat out on something like this! Sometimes deep into a full refit you question your sanity, this helps me.

[Calif.Ted]

I'd noticed a couple working very hard on a boat while riding my bike near the yard, didn't realize you'd relocated to Dana.
If you are not already aware Orange Engine up on Del Obispo is good source for parts.
https://orangeengineautoparts.com/
I think I went by the first day you started laying up the new deck, came out very nice. You did look a little apprehensive as you approached roller in hand.

[Don C L]

I see you cut hawseholes in the bow bulwarks! Did you ever manage to find bronze fittings for those? I got tired of the chocks on the rail so now for my spring line I just have a figure eight knot in the end and the line comes out of the scupper. No chafe, super strong. Just need an extra minute to release the figure eight.

Now I hesitate to say this because you are doing beautiful work, but me, being a bit neurotic about weight aloft, wonder how much that stainless head piece weighs. I hate to sound critical because it looks absolutely great, but given the tender nature of our boats, I am always thinking about how to reduce weight up there.