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Old 21-06-2013, 15:05   #46
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Hi Boatman! Transportation Worker Identification Credential; TWIC. To get one, you must be a US citizen, submit to a FBI/Homeland Security background check, show your current passport, driver's license and social security card. You will also be fingerprinted and photographed. A fee of about $150 USD is to be paid, during your processing; the TWIC ID card is good for 5 years. If your background is squeaky clean, you can get your TWIC within 10 business days. You must show up in person, to pick it up and to have it activated; it contains a bar code, a magnetic stripe, an embedded chip and your digitized picture. During your pick-up of the card, expect more fingerprints to confirm the original ones taken.
Now, having said that, wouldn't you really want your crew members to carry their TWIC cards and their current passports? I do! After all, your neck and licenses are on the line! (pilot license, weapons license, pharmacy license, among others.)

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Old 21-06-2013, 15:16   #47
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Hi Boatman! Transportation Worker Identification Credential; TWIC. To get one, you must be a US citizen, submit to a FBI/Homeland Security background check, show your current passport, driver's license and social security card. You will also be fingerprinted and photographed. A fee of about $150 USD is to be paid, during your processing; the TWIC ID card is good for 5 years. If your background is squeaky clean, you can get your TWIC within 10 business days. You must show up in person, to pick it up and to have it activated; it contains a bar code, a magnetic stripe, an embedded chip and your digitized picture. During your pick-up of the card, expect more fingerprints to confirm the original ones taken.
Now, having said that, wouldn't you really want your crew members to carry their TWIC cards and their current passports? I do! After all, your neck and licenses are on the line! (pilot license, weapons license, pharmacy license, among others.)

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Old 21-06-2013, 15:49   #48
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Hi Boatman! In addition, anyone applying for ANY USCG license MUST have a TWIC ID card; including the "6-pack captain license".

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Wow, I have a DEA license, an License to practice medicine, but not a TWIC. Would you take one of those instead? What if I promise to be good but really want to crew on your boat
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Hi Newt! A DEA is an excellent license to have; you're welcome to fly/sail with us. My wife has one too; Ob/Gyn doc.

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Hi Boatman! In addition, anyone applying for ANY USCG license MUST have a TWIC ID card; including the "6-pack captain license".

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Old 21-06-2013, 16:42   #52
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It's not the card that's the problem.
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Old 21-06-2013, 17:55   #53
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My question for the card is, would I lose valuable talent by only accepting TWIC holders? In a heavy blow I want experience and calm minds, not a dweeb holding his TWIC card between his chattering teeth. I can see there are some benefits, but will it help me during tough times?
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the best sailors i ever knew besides my uncle were derelict sailors. they HAVE to SAIL, and they watch their stuff well, as they cannot afford to replace it. the derelict sailors who SAIL, not the ones moored or anchored and do not move. real sailors who do not have shiny stuff or all the latest junk.

i test the proposed crews abilities to understand plain words and follow simple commands.
if that doesnt work, i tell them i will be sailing my leaky wreck 100 miles offshore and i donot have a lifeboat nor epirb.

that doesnt fail to remove them from in front of my eyes.
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Hiya Zee! I agree with you that many a rascaling sailor are among the best there is in handling any issues that arise while under sail. I have known many of them, but would not enjoy living their lifestyles or working with them. I do NOT drink, smoke, chase skirts, do drugs, to just name a few things that SOME of these sailors engage in. I just do not want to worry about my well being or the crew's well being, if I bring in someone with an unknown background on board. I realize that requiring each crew member to have a TWIC, is a security over-kill. What other options a captain must do, to have a semblance of security aboard his/her ship?

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I like the idea of sailing with guys who have lots more experience than me under their belt. I never lost anything by learning from others. I am a stickler at sea about no drugs, cept the legal ones and some for sea sickness, no booze, no bitching because if it is cold everyone is cold, if it is rough, everyone has the unsettled feeling, if we are not getting a lot of sleep everyone has the same deprivation problems. But we all have to learn, too so I like passing what little I know along and encouraging new faces to learn new skills.

Do all the toys make a better sailor? Or do better sailors have all the toys? I have seen people get totally distracted trying to make the new toy work when they should have been watching the crew, can see it both ways.
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Hiya Zee! I agree with you that many a rascaling sailor are among the best there is in handling any issues that arise while under sail. I have known many of them, but would not enjoy living their lifestyles or working with them. I do NOT drink, smoke, chase skirts, do drugs, to just name a few things that SOME of these sailors engage in. I just do not want to worry about my well being or the crew's well being, if I bring in someone with an unknown background on board. I realize that requiring each crew member to have a TWIC, is a security over-kill. What other options a captain must do, to have a semblance of security aboard his/her ship?

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Hi GoBoating! I lived in several countries. There are wonderful people everywhere I lived. Having a crew for an extended voyage requires me to be more cautious about who to pick. It is very difficult to check the criminal background of foreigners. When I stop by a Customs Office, I do not want to be surprised about what my crew did NOT disclose to me prior to departure. With a TWIC ID and a current passport, I have one less issue to worry about. In every place my crew and I visited, I sailed through the paperwork without a hitch; 40+ countries.

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the best sailors i ever knew besides my uncle were derelict sailors. they HAVE to SAIL, and they watch their stuff well, as they cannot afford to replace it. the derelict sailors who SAIL, not the ones moored or anchored and do not move. real sailors who do not have shiny stuff or all the latest junk.

i test the proposed crews abilities to understand plain words and follow simple commands.
if that doesnt work, i tell them i will be sailing my leaky wreck 100 miles offshore and i donot have a lifeboat nor epirb.

that doesnt fail to remove them from in front of my eyes.

It would be great to cruise without compass, gps, auto pilot, etc and navigate by the stars, sun, incoming swell, flight path of birds, sense of smell, etc. Wonder how sympathetic the Australian coast guard would be when they pick me up.
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Hi Boatman! Yes, just keep that ELT by you...and someday, you will hear swooshing sound splashing/landing by you and plucking you out! Silly goose! HONK!

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