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21-06-2013, 19:01
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Seattle
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Re: Checklist For Voluntary Crew
I suppose, if it's not clear by now, that as can be seen, attitude is a major item.
A know-it-all is a problem, whether captain or crew.
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21-06-2013, 19:07
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#62
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
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Re: Checklist For Voluntary Crew
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Self Defence is no excuse for Genocide...
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21-06-2013, 19:37
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#63
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 18,967
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Re: Checklist For Voluntary Crew
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Originally Posted by Jammer Six
I suppose, if it's not clear by now, that as can be seen, attitude is a major item.
A know-it-all is a problem, whether captain or crew.
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true, dat....
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22-06-2013, 03:01
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#64
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cruiser
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Breckenridge
Boat: 1987 Tayana 37
Posts: 106
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Re: Checklist For Voluntary Crew
Lots of ideas here. Different styles, different levels of comfort for security. I can't tell any captain or any crew what they should look for in a yacht or captain, but I can point to this discussion to suggest the variety. Each will have to make their best guess at that point.
Sooo, if I were going to crew on a boat would I be wise to take into account the type of construction, wood vs. plastic, steel vs. aluminum, does it make any difference in my safety? What if we were heading to the Antarctic?
I remember before most of your day, they were concerned plastic boats would fall apart in the salty ocean so they poured the hulls extra thick. None of them fell apart.
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22-06-2013, 03:09
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#65
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Armchair Bucketeer
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,012
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Re: Checklist For Voluntary Crew
Being crew is a lot like hitching rides in cars.......and much the same for the Skipper.
The chance to take a few more precautions though, but that up to each to bother.
IMO type of construction irrelevant - it's all about boat condition, albeit likely that some types attract those with differing budgets - including for maintenance........but just like getting in a car with a stranger, the best tool yer can have is a nose. Some folks have that, some get buried by the side of a deserted highway..........
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22-06-2013, 03:09
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#66
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Nelson NZ; boat in Port Stephens, NSW.
Boat: 45ft Ketch
Posts: 1,562
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Re: Checklist For Voluntary Crew
Why look at type of construction? Should just check to see if things are well maintained and have a few drinks with the skipper to see if there is recklessness.
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22-06-2013, 03:21
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#67
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Nelson NZ; boat in Port Stephens, NSW.
Boat: 45ft Ketch
Posts: 1,562
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Re: Checklist For Voluntary Crew
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Originally Posted by zeehag
the best sailors i ever knew besides my uncle were derelict sailors. they HAVE to SAIL, and they watch their stuff well, as they cannot afford to replace it. the derelict sailors who SAIL, not the ones moored or anchored and do not move. real sailors who do not have shiny stuff or all the latest junk.
i test the proposed crews abilities to understand plain words and follow simple commands.
if that doesnt work, i tell them i will be sailing my leaky wreck 100 miles offshore and i donot have a lifeboat nor epirb.
that doesnt fail to remove them from in front of my eyes. |
 More or less what Ouais-Ouais told me last night after 33 years cruising.
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22-06-2013, 06:04
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#68
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 18,967
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Re: Checklist For Voluntary Crew
it is not the boat that will get you to where you wish to go. it is the idiot driving that boat that will get you to where you wish to be.
that idiot/loose nut/captain/skipper/wtf will not take you into their home /boat if you are not worthy. not worthy includes failure to follow simple instructions. it includes personal habits such as leaving on the lights and flooding boat by not paying attention to how to flush a marine manual toilet. btw--you plug the damn thing, you fix it....
if you sit back and let me do all the work, you are gone. i didnt bring ye on to still be solo...lol...
there are many issues that are subjective, and many that are objective. sort thru the bs and see what you have found. some crew are treasures, some are not.
good luck and happy hunting.
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22-06-2013, 06:15
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#69
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
Posts: 31,075
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Re: Checklist For Voluntary Crew
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Originally Posted by zeehag
if you sit back and let me do all the work, you are gone. i didnt bring ye on to still be solo...lol...
there are many issues that are subjective, and many that are objective. sort thru the bs and see what you have found. some crew are treasures, some are not.
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I'm perfectly happy solo sailing the boat personally...
I'd hate her to move about and spoil the view...
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You can't oppress a people for over 75 years and have them say.. "I Love You.. ".
"It is better to die standing proud, than to live a lifetime on ones knees.."
Self Defence is no excuse for Genocide...
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22-06-2013, 06:18
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#70
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 18,967
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Re: Checklist For Voluntary Crew
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Originally Posted by boatman61
Quote:
Originally Posted by zeehag
if you sit back and let me do all the work, you are gone. i didnt bring ye on to still be solo...lol...
there are many issues that are subjective, and many that are objective. sort thru the bs and see what you have found. some crew are treasures, some are not.
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I'm perfectly happy solo sailing the boat personally...
I'd hate her to move about and spoil the view... |
must be a guy thing...rodlmao....
see what i mean--SUBJECTIVE...rodlmao==i would find boaty's skinny old male bod the scenery.... 
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22-06-2013, 06:27
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#71
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
Posts: 31,075
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Re: Checklist For Voluntary Crew
[QUOTE=zeehag;1267146]
Quote:
Originally Posted by boatman61
must be a guy thing...rodlmao....
see what i mean--SUBJECTIVE...rodlmao==i would find boaty's skinny old male bod the scenery....
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I can stay motionless for a long time.... then I'll roll another one..
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You can't oppress a people for over 75 years and have them say.. "I Love You.. ".
"It is better to die standing proud, than to live a lifetime on ones knees.."
Self Defence is no excuse for Genocide...
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22-06-2013, 06:37
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#72
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 18,967
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Re: Checklist For Voluntary Crew
[QUOTE=boatman61;1267151]
Quote:
Originally Posted by zeehag
I can stay motionless for a long time.... then I'll roll another one..
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i can deal with that..when do we leave.....
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22-06-2013, 07:10
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#73
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Texas - USA
Boat: Twin Otter de Havilland Floatplane
Posts: 1,838
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Re: Checklist For Voluntary Crew
Hi Boatman! Be careful what you wish for! Zee can deliver on your wish! <Luv that Zee!>
Mauritz
Going to behave now!
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22-06-2013, 07:15
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#74
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Armchair Bucketeer
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,012
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Re: Checklist For Voluntary Crew
Guys...........get a room!
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22-06-2013, 07:24
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#75
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
Posts: 31,075
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Re: Checklist For Voluntary Crew
__________________
You can't oppress a people for over 75 years and have them say.. "I Love You.. ".
"It is better to die standing proud, than to live a lifetime on ones knees.."
Self Defence is no excuse for Genocide...
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