Transgender and cruising?

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by Maria Sophie

Of course that is dangerous sadly in this world we presently have for a person to publicly announce about medical anomalies. Thankfully though there are some people who are educated about us and therefore there are some safer places to be for sailing. And the more people who are educated about our existence the more it will become safe for us and be less discrimination in sailing. And in this safe forum I am looking for friends with things in common like Intersex people who sail or people who are LGBTQ+ who like sailing. Also I know there are thousands upon thousands of men and some women who like Intersex Women and also who like Transgender Women; and there are some who sail too!

Again you didn’t address my point. Why is there a need to advertise your sexuality

[GrowleyMonster]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

Again you didn’t address my point. Why is there a need to advertise your sexuality

Maybe because it was relevant to the question and the discussion?

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by GrowleyMonster

Maybe because it was relevant to the question and the discussion?

The point is the nations with issues are more then happy to leave you alone as long as you don’t flaunt it.

If you’re not a believer of Mohammed would you walk around a Muslim country with a T shirt saying things about Muslims and not expect blow back

Keep this type of stuff on the “ down low” you’ll be fine

[Rumrace]

Well maybe you’d like me to post the global law maps to separate assumption from poor reading skills.
Iran dumped Muslim Law in 2015 summer to Modern Law but you’re still not safe. And west Africa country influenced by Saudi Arabia. So while there are only 3 countries practicing Muslim Law their influence of their laws are broad reaching.
It’s not misinformation as implied but as a member of Upper Canada Law Society involved in immigration law there are fewer places where you freedom is respected. It is my best guess to be honest. If you were my kid I’d beg you to avoid the obvious players. I’ll post the law maps. Your in for a shock.

[Rumrace]

The maps go from funny to sad. North America you can see the French have European law. Louisianan and Quebec. Not unlike Scotland respecting Europes laws as well a English common law. If you want to know your rights in a destination you can contact your local law society for advice. Under common law you have the right to ask for 30 minutes of advise no charge any state or province. That way instead of getting educated guesses you’ll have the facts. I’ve studied some international laws but they conflict so much you just don’t retain them.
On map 2.7 you don’t want to sail the wrong direction that civil law fringe will not protect your rights. So Customary Law and Muslim Law could wreck your sail.

It’s been my experience that folks see their faults more readily that themselves. So when someone assumes I’m lying to you for some twisted social media benefit I remind myself mental health is not my scope.

[Rumrace]

Saudi Arabia executed 5 people for just being Pagan

[FPNC]

Jamaica is a no go.

[Rumrace]

That’s surprising and sad. I love the scuba diving in Jamaica. Their laws on scuba divers are unique. No gloves allowed let stupid tourist get stung by coral and learn to leave it alone. Never thought to ask them on their position on Trans. Nor did I ask in Palau diving with Mike Ball or Vietnam. The Caribbean law map is missing for some good reasons but mostly because of European ownership so it’s very much Civil Law. So Saba being Dutch is Civil but the Very English Bahamas are a mix of common law and civil. I think it was 1973 the straight hippies in a Toronto and Montreal stopped the police from gay abuse and our law changed. Up until then gay criminal charges were common. Evolution isn’t instant and it will take more than our life times for the globe to have their 1973. I don’t know when the US decriminalized and I’m not certain it’s Federal or by state. In Canada it’s Federal with zero complaints from BC or Quebec which is rare.

[Rumrace]

Out of curiosity I looked it up. Bill 105 was 1969.
Canadas first law on the topic … it’s kinda judging other countries with condescending brilliance is naive.

“ The first Canadian law condemning homosexuality came into force in 1841. At the time, such a crime was punishable by death. That sentence was later mitigated to imprisonment, for lengths of time that varied over the years.”

We also put in laws on incest and polygamy 1896 to stop immigration from certain areas and chase the existing ones south. That racist law has evolved belongs to Family Law and human rights now solid as a rock. No inbred stressing medical care.

[jordanbigel]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

Again you didn’t address my point. Why is there a need to advertise your sexuality

Yes, they did. Maybe you could go back and re-read the post made in response to your question? Wait, I'll help:

"And in this safe forum I am looking for friends with things in common like Intersex people who sail or people who are LGBTQ+ who like sailing."

[Cwens]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

Again you didn’t address my point. Why is there a need to advertise your sexuality

Why should there be a need to hide who you are and keep it on the "down low"?



If a married man and a woman check into a hotel together, walk down the street holding hands, enjoy dinner together at a romantic restaurant, or kiss each other hello/goodbye at the airport, are they "advertising their sexuality?"



You seem to be suggesting that a same sex couple should simply avoid doing these things if they don't want blowback, harassment, or worse.

There's a world of difference between, on the one hand, respecting local customs, e.g. dressing modestly if visiting a church, and, on the other, needing to hide your identity to stay alive.

[Chotu]

Originally Posted by ChrisOwens

Why should there be a need to hide who you are and keep it on the "down low"?



If a married man and a woman check into a hotel together, walk down the street holding hands, enjoy dinner together at a romantic restaurant, or kiss each other hello/goodbye at the airport, are they "advertising their sexuality?"



You seem to be suggesting that a same sex couple should simply avoid doing these things if they don't want blowback, harassment, or worse.

There's a world of difference between, on the one hand, respecting local customs, e.g. dressing modestly if visiting a church, and, on the other, needing to hide your identity to stay alive.

Actually, yes, they are. The hetero couple doing pda will get in a lot of trouble in certain countries for doing just what you described.

Much better to keep things on the down low when you are traveling. You want to blend in. That’s it. It doesn’t matter what topic we are talking about, just blend in. Then you’ll have a good trip.


That’s what goboatingnow is talking about and he’s right.

Someone who is born with a combination of both genders does not need to advertise that at customs, at the store or at the marina. It’s their business and the business of their romantic partners.

That’s the key to safe, enjoyable international travel.

You keep your own biases at home and learn how to present yourself in other cultures to fit in.

I keep things to myself traveling as well. It’s important

[dannc]

Originally Posted by Chotu

Actually, yes, they are. The hetero couple doing pda will get in a lot of trouble in certain countries for doing just what you described.

Much better to keep things on the down low when you are traveling. You want to blend in. That’s it. It doesn’t matter what topic we are talking about, just blend in. Then you’ll have a good trip.

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That’s the key to safe, enjoyable international travel.

You keep your own biases at home and learn how to present yourself in other cultures to fit in.

I keep things to myself traveling as well. It’s important

Exactly.

Going into a pub in Cork, Ireland and ordering a Black and Tan might lead to trouble.

One should have at least some awareness of local customs or one can step into some deep mess.

Long ago, I worked with a guy from Northern Ireland who wanted to see the world. Really good guy. He got his a...sed kick in a bar in Hawaii. No way would he have said anything offensive, at least on purpose. My suspicion was that he went into a local bar that he should not have visited and he did not have the local, cultural knowledge to avoid the place and/or problems.

Later,
Dan

[MicHughV]

My experience has been that folk that are gay, trans, etc, etc, typically find other people that are the same and they tend to hang out with each other, rather than mix with the general public.

I know that in my neck of the woods, there are bars, clubs and so on, that cater to the LGBTQ crowd. While anyone is free to go there, most don't.

I imagine that worldwide, there must be similar places.

[Rumrace]

Well the US debated trans spent million debated things very unappealing to most folks. It’s not a measurement of a person in Canada.
I hear what your saying about bias being incited by a normal promiscuity. I’ve noticed that the Pride Parade is a Porn Parade we get arrested for. Lots of special interest groups only hear one side of the conversation. Tolerance needs to be reciprocal to function long term. Sometimes the display makes us question our reason. You need to dig into your empathy stash and move on. There is a beautiful 41 Beneteau seen around the harbour run by two lesbians. “girls only”. They always look real happy handle the boat like pros. I’ve seen 6 gals on the boat no guys.
If your judging people for your own mental health spirituality religion your parents taught you well enjoy. It’s not healthy