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26-03-2015, 15:28
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#106
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ex Palarran, now LRC owner
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Michgian
Boat: Hampton 700
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Re: The changing face of cruising in the Med.
The premises for this tread was flawed from the beginning. It's obvious that those who actually cruise the Med are not much concerned about the terrorist environment in the Med. Those who don't, and rely on verbose posts and obscure google searches to support an imaginary problem should just keep the crap to themselves.
I can't believe a thread I started about how it was cheaper to cruise the Med now that the dollar has strengthen against the euro was shut down by a moderator because of a few political posts and this one has 3 pages of them.
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26-03-2015, 15:36
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#107
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Seville London Eastbourne
Posts: 13,406
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Re: The changing face of cruising in the Med.
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Originally Posted by Palarran
The premises for this tread was flawed from the beginning. It's obvious that those who actually cruise the Med are not much concerned about the terrorist environment in the Med. |
Yet.
but thank you for your erudite expressions. 
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26-03-2015, 15:45
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#108
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: north carolina
Boat: command yachtsdouglas32
Posts: 3,113
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Re: The changing face of cruising in the Med.
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Originally Posted by Palarran
The premises for this tread was flawed from the beginning. It's obvious that those who actually cruise the Med are not much concerned about the terrorist environment in the Med. Those who don't, and rely on verbose posts and obscure google searches to support an imaginary problem should just keep the crap to themselves.
I can't believe a thread I started about how it was cheaper to cruise the Med now that the dollar has strengthen against the euro was shut down by a moderator because of a few political posts and this one has 3 pages of them. |
I think CF should forbid any talk of Political issues on CF ..Political matters have nothing to do with sailing into foreign ports of the world... Anyone that is on a boat has no interest about what awaits them at the next port of call..Blind faith and ignorance are all that's needed in this fast paced fast changing world...Its a new century and what passed for normal in the last century should suffice in this one...The song remains the same(and it always will)...
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26-03-2015, 16:14
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#109
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
Posts: 31,549
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Re: The changing face of cruising in the Med.
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Originally Posted by tropicalescape
I think CF should forbid any talk of Political issues on CF ..Political matters have nothing to do with sailing into foreign ports of the world... Anyone that is on a boat has no interest about what awaits them at the next port of call.. Blind faith and ignorance are all that's needed in this fast paced fast changing world...Its a new century and what passed for normal in the last century should suffice in this one...The song remains the same(and it always will)... |
Yep... Tough Tittie.. Schengen Stays...
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26-03-2015, 16:22
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#110
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Central California
Boat: M/V Carquinez Coot
Posts: 3,782
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Re: The changing face of cruising in the Med.
Fortunately, our last cruise (January-February 2015) was "Rome" to Istanbul and return which avoided the danger zone.
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26-03-2015, 16:24
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#111
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Seville London Eastbourne
Posts: 13,406
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Re: The changing face of cruising in the Med.
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Originally Posted by tropicalescape
I think CF should forbid any talk of Political issues on CF ..Political matters have nothing to do with sailing into foreign ports of the world... Anyone that is on a boat has no interest about what awaits them at the next port of call..Blind faith and ignorance are all that's needed in this fast paced fast changing world...Its a new century and what passed for normal in the last century should suffice in this one...The song remains the same(and it always will)...
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OK. You have joined the rank of the few who made a coffee splutterer out of me. Well done.
It is a fine line for managers of a site to not intrude on discussions. Regardless of the subject, These days, it will go political. 
C.F. mods, having been one myself along with countless others on here, recognise the difficulties and have to balance between the contributors, their motives and known agendas and the subject in hand.
At any time a thread can be pulled based on all the above reasons, and for reasons the members are not aware of.
So if a thread continues, it has not been ignored or favoured, it is being moderated carefully. Site managers are not censors, they are implementers of the company rules and work between themselves to ensure a balance of viewpoints. Ultimately, a choice will be made to leave a thread or close it.
Furthermore, I am not a desk jockey when it comes to the Med. I have involvement in medical clinics in Mallorca and the Spanish mainland and up till very recently have owned property in Mallorca since 1982. I am an advisor to a medical group in Greece and recently contributed to a decision to relocate outside of Greece.
What affects the area, affects me personally. My livelihood and future permanent residence.
Regardless of what has been, it isnt going to remain the same anymore. Times and circumstances have changed. The whole world geopolitical map is not the same as even 6 months ago. Everyone is fighting and I for one am pretty fed up with it. It is what it is.
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26-03-2015, 16:26
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#112
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Seville London Eastbourne
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Re: The changing face of cruising in the Med.
AAAaaargh!! no!!!
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27-03-2015, 03:29
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#113
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Seville London Eastbourne
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Re: The changing face of cruising in the Med.
So for 2014/2015:
The new Travellers' Choice #1 Destination in the world is Marrakech, Morocco.
It is a magical place, brimming with markets, gardens, palaces, and mosques. Exploring the intimate courtyards and snaking alleyways of the historic Medina can easily eat up a day. Find inner peace at the serene Jardin Majorelle or take in the beauty of one of the city’s historic mosques (taking note that you may only step inside if you are Muslim).
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- Never test how deep the water is with both feet -
10% of conflicts are due to different opinions. 90% by the tone of voice.
Raise your words, not your voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder.
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27-03-2015, 03:57
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#114
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: gettin naughty on the beach in cornwall
Boat: 63 custom alloy sloop,macwester26,prout snowgoose 37 elite catamaran!
Posts: 10,598
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Re: The changing face of cruising in the Med.
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27-03-2015, 04:09
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#115
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Seville London Eastbourne
Posts: 13,406
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Re: The changing face of cruising in the Med.
I wondered who would be the first....... 
Ill miss Morocco if it all goes tip over apex. A great place.
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- Never test how deep the water is with both feet -
10% of conflicts are due to different opinions. 90% by the tone of voice.
Raise your words, not your voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder.
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27-03-2015, 04:15
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#116
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Adelaide Australia
Boat: Cuddles 30ft Motor Sailer
Posts: 286
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Re: The changing face of cruising in the Med.
As always, I will assess the real risk and try to ignore the perceived risk. How many people cruising in the Med have been injured or killed by terrorists over the past 20 years? As far as I am aware, ZERO. Please correct me if I am wrong.
IMHO, there are hundreds of other risks that much more worthy of being concerned about while cruising the Med. A random example is Dysentery. The chances of getting it are high, maybe 1 in 100. 1 in 1000 die from it. So 1 in 100,000 chance of it killing you on your cruise. Just one example.
Why are some people so fixated on being attacked by terrorists?
I have no intention of changing my plans to cruise the coast of Turkey this summer, despite all the scaremongering.
And yes - I do have a basic knowledge of what is going on in the area; having spent the majority of the past eight years in Iraq and Libya.
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27-03-2015, 04:23
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#117
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Earth
Boat: Amel Super Maramu 53 ft
Posts: 614
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Re: The changing face of cruising in the Med.
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Originally Posted by weavis
All said and done, still headed for Mallorca. Still wanting to live there or mainland Spain.
Will make sure that the cat I get will have beam to make it through the French Canals...... |
I live in Majorca now. When we return from our RTW, we'll base the boat either in Turkey or Greece or perhaps on mainland Spain.
Mooring costs are €4000/ mo for Eleuthera during high season. 
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27-03-2015, 04:37
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#118
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
Posts: 31,549
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Re: The changing face of cruising in the Med.
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Originally Posted by Eleuthera 2014
I live in Majorca now. When we return from our RTW, we'll base the boat either in Turkey or Greece or perhaps on mainland Spain.
Mooring costs are €4000/ mo for Eleuthera during high season. |
But.. But.. look on the bright side..
Your in with the in crowd..
Your berthed where the 'In Crowd' goes..
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You can't abuse and dispossess a people and have them say.. "I Love You.. ".
"It is better to die standing proud, than to live a lifetime on ones knees under Facism.."
Alleged Self Defence is no justification for Genocide...
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27-03-2015, 04:40
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#119
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ex Palarran, now LRC owner
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Michgian
Boat: Hampton 700
Posts: 3,490
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Re: The changing face of cruising in the Med.
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Originally Posted by Kokanee
As always, I will assess the real risk and try to ignore the perceived risk. How many people cruising in the Med have been injured or killed by terrorists over the past 20 years? As far as I am aware, ZERO. Please correct me if I am wrong.
IMHO, there are hundreds of other risks that much more worthy of being concerned about while cruising the Med. A random example is Dysentery. The chances of getting it are high, maybe 1 in 100. 1 in 1000 die from it. So 1 in 100,000 chance of it killing you on your cruise. Just one example.
Why are some people so fixated on being attacked by terrorists?
I have no intention of changing my plans to cruise the coast of Turkey this summer, despite all the scaremongering.
And yes - I do have a basic knowledge of what is going on in the area; having spent the majority of the past eight years in Iraq and Libya.
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Kokanee, please don't let the real world get in the way of this fantasy one.
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27-03-2015, 04:43
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#120
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Earth
Boat: Amel Super Maramu 53 ft
Posts: 614
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Re: The changing face of cruising in the Med.
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Originally Posted by boatman61
But.. But.. look on the bright side..
Your in with the in crowd..
Your berthed where the 'In Crowd' goes..
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I used to like your sense of humour...
You know the same song I grew up with. You are then an old SOB. I am one of those.
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