Cruisers Forum
 

Go Back   Cruisers & Sailing Forums > The Fleet > General Sailing Forum
Cruiser Wiki Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Log in

Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 01-06-2023, 04:56   #31
Registered User
 
jeanathon's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: WNC mountains U.S.
Boat: Haven't seen it yet. Bought on Ebay
Posts: 1,214
Re: Smallest sailboat to cross Atlantic has left...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chotu View Post
He would not have made as much money that way. He has to cry so more people watch it. $$$
I watched approx. 1 second of the crying video before I couldn't take it anymore and closed it.
__________________
If you FEEL like you have been heard. You definitely weren't listening,
jeanathon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2023, 05:06   #32
Registered User
 
Chotu's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2018
Boat: 50ft Custom Fast Catamaran
Posts: 11,832
Re: Smallest sailboat to cross Atlantic has left...

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanathon View Post
I watched approx. 1 second of the crying video before I couldn't take it anymore and closed it.
I never even opened it. I still have limited bandwidth. I have to work on getting an Internet connection that allows me to watch all of these crying videos and things.
Chotu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2023, 05:10   #33
Registered User
 
jeanathon's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: WNC mountains U.S.
Boat: Haven't seen it yet. Bought on Ebay
Posts: 1,214
Re: Smallest sailboat to cross Atlantic has left...

^^^^^ Masochist?
__________________
If you FEEL like you have been heard. You definitely weren't listening,
jeanathon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2023, 08:18   #34
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 178
Re: Smallest sailboat to cross Atlantic has left...

He didn’t. The boat fell apart just a few hours after departure.
Leighpilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2023, 09:21   #35
Marine Service Provider
 
pbmaise's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Langkawi, Malaysia
Boat: Jay Kantola - Trimaran 65 ft by 40 ft beam
Posts: 1,111
Re: Smallest sailboat to cross Atlantic has left...

I think there is enough collective wisdom here to redesign this 1 meter LOA vessel successfully.

I have a few thoughts.

1. It must float with a freeboard of about 1 meter above the waterline even if filled with water so there is no worry about sinking.
2. It must have redundant electrical supply though two wind generators.
3. Sail controls should be autopilot with all sealed wiring hydraulics etc
4. It needs AIS, VHF, and Sat communications

There appears to be no limit on draft in this contest. If we can call it a contest. Obviously the deeper the draft the more the vessel can carry, the greater the stability etc etc.

For kicks and giggles lets imagine the draft limit is 5 meters and the vessel is 1 meter round.

This translates to 2.8 cubic meters displacement and maximum loaded weight of 2.87 metric tons.

Thoughts?
pbmaise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2023, 09:39   #36
Marine Service Provider
 
pbmaise's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Langkawi, Malaysia
Boat: Jay Kantola - Trimaran 65 ft by 40 ft beam
Posts: 1,111
Re: Smallest sailboat to cross Atlantic has left...

I think I made the design difficult from the get go.

I am unable to find a NEMA rated wind generator. I.E. The generator itself must survive complete immersion in seawater. There are lots of websites listing the NEMA rating of the electrical control box and cables...but I can't find a NEMA rated wind generator. Prefer NEMA 6.
pbmaise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2023, 09:42   #37
Marine Service Provider

Join Date: Jan 2019
Boat: Beneteau 432, C&C Landfall 42, Roberts Offshore 38
Posts: 6,383
Re: Smallest sailboat to cross Atlantic has left...

Other than being a stunt....I see no other reason to even consider doing something like this..

Quite honestly...in my opinion....the guy had a profound "wtf am I doing here" reality check a short distance from shore..and....wisely....chose to end the trip...
MicHughV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2023, 10:03   #38
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2012
Boat: Pearson 386
Posts: 298
Re: Smallest sailboat to cross Atlantic has left...

Is his name Bob?
OneBoatman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2023, 11:02   #39
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Washington DC
Boat: Hunter Legend 405
Posts: 59
Re: Smallest sailboat to cross Atlantic has left...

[QUOTE=pbmaise;3786045]....no limit on draft in this contest. If we can call it a contest. ..../QUOTE]

Yes, if this is a contest, it's pretty important to know the rules. No limit on draft? What about submerged length? You could design essentially a submarine with a minimal above water structure, similar to a periscope. I was in on the design of a very stable buoy for oceanic measurements. Just a really long pole with very little above the surface. It can be as stable as you like. You get out of the harbor by towing the buoy horizontally. I suppose it could be sailed if you didn't care how long it took to arrive. You could make the underwater part highly streamlined -- laminar flow shape, so hardly any drag, and lots of resistance to side slip. Instead of a sail, use a windmill apparatus that drives a prop. This is a theoretically very efficient propulsion method. People have claimed to sail downwind faster than the wind speed with this type of setup on land, and theoretically works on water. You could tap the drive system to generate electricity for an auto-helm. You could have essentially a roving self-powered (unmanned) buoy. Maybe something here for oceanographic studies.
Rothblum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2023, 12:03   #40
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Virginia, USA
Boat: Tayana 37
Posts: 996
Re: Smallest sailboat to cross Atlantic has left...

[QUOTE=Rothblum;3786087]
Quote:
Originally Posted by pbmaise View Post
....no limit on draft in this contest. If we can call it a contest. ..../QUOTE]

Yes, if this is a contest, it's pretty important to know the rules. No limit on draft? What about submerged length? You could design essentially a submarine with a minimal above water structure, similar to a periscope. I was in on the design of a very stable buoy for oceanic measurements. Just a really long pole with very little above the surface. It can be as stable as you like. You get out of the harbor by towing the buoy horizontally. I suppose it could be sailed if you didn't care how long it took to arrive. You could make the underwater part highly streamlined -- laminar flow shape, so hardly any drag, and lots of resistance to side slip. Instead of a sail, use a windmill apparatus that drives a prop. This is a theoretically very efficient propulsion method. People have claimed to sail downwind faster than the wind speed with this type of setup on land, and theoretically works on water. You could tap the drive system to generate electricity for an auto-helm. You could have essentially a roving self-powered (unmanned) buoy. Maybe something here for oceanographic studies.
There are no official rules just if people will accept that you complied with the spirit of the challenge/record.

It does make me wonder however how well a sailing submarine would work.
Statistical is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2023, 12:52   #41
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Washington DC
Boat: Hunter Legend 405
Posts: 59
Re: Smallest sailboat to cross Atlantic has left...

One of the very first jobs I had working for the Navy was to evaluate a proposal for a flying submarine. Tragically, the inventor's son was killed during a trial. No, the Navy did not pick up the proposal. It was so absurd that they fobbed the evaluation off to me. Not sure I even had a degree at the time.
Rothblum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2023, 13:39   #42
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Guilford, CT
Boat: Bristol 35.5 1978
Posts: 747
Re: Smallest sailboat to cross Atlantic has left...

Agree with what's been said already, regarding the video. Is nothing private any longer? Compose yourself and then recount what happened, to the best of your ability and also why? What I find unfathomable is that he has young children too, if memory serves me right? What was he and his more than too tolerant wife thinking?!
In contrast is this young man, Tom R, but in a 24foot boat rowing the pacific. Departed Peru and just arrived Pago Pago...https://www.tomrobinsonboats.com/the-boat...reading about the rigors of rowing, just glad I've got sails!
thnks
Dave - not the youngest sailor and not in the shortest boat, just a boat the right size.
Hoodsail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2023, 15:22   #43
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 251
Re: Smallest sailboat to cross Atlantic has left...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Don C L View Post
the fact that he is still alive, and the "boat" sank, is clearly evidence of divine intervention.
That's a rather unlikely hypothesis. No divine intervention occurs in a great many far more deserving cases. Seems like a pretty fickle kind of deity to me.
__________________
I'm currently building a Chameleon Nesting Dinghy. You can check on progress here:
https://garryck-osborne.com
JAFO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2023, 17:22   #44
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: San Francisco
Boat: Morgan 382
Posts: 2,936
Re: Smallest sailboat to cross Atlantic has left...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoodsail View Post
Agree with what's been said already, regarding the video. Is nothing private any longer? Compose yourself and then recount what happened, to the best of your ability and also why? What I find unfathomable is that he has young children too, if memory serves me right? What was he and his more than too tolerant wife thinking?!
In contrast is this young man, Tom R, but in a 24foot boat rowing the pacific. Departed Peru and just arrived Pago Pago...https://www.tomrobinsonboats.com/the-boat...reading about the rigors of rowing, just glad I've got sails!
thnks
Dave - not the youngest sailor and not in the shortest boat, just a boat the right size.
There is also Aaron Carotta who is attempting/attempted to row across the Pacific. Was attempting a circumnavigation. Currently missing with a large search underway.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/186285441048310
__________________
-Warren
wholybee is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
boat, sail, sailboat


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Some of the smallest boats to cross The Atlantic. Evenkeel1 Monohull Sailboats 29 14-11-2017 11:51
The Smallest Boat Ever to Cross the Atlantic? Capt Robert Seamanship & Boat Handling 24 10-03-2017 16:13
Smallest Boat Crossing Atlantic Vasco General Sailing Forum 3 27-11-2012 10:28
Smallest Catamaran to attempt to cross the Atlantic or Pacific Lundy Multihull Sailboats 13 23-02-2007 10:05

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 17:44.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.