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Old 03-10-2009, 10:22   #1
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Perfect Boat or Perfect Place?

Just curious on your opinion...which would you pick?

We had what we thought was the perfect place to start sailing and the perfect route through the Mediterranean.

BUT can't find the right boat. We managed to find 2 perfect boats. But of course one is in California.

We don't want to do a crossing yet and delivery seems quite expensive.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:26   #2
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Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

I think only you can answer the question. Here are some that might come to mind if I were you.

Why is the Med the perfect place for you?
Could you accept a slightly less than perfect place and get to perfection later?
Why are the two boats perfect? Are they different or the same?
Could you find something that has most of perfection in a boat (that you will spend gobs of time on at anchor) in your perfect place?

Could you find someone in the perfect place with the perfect boat who would be willing to swap with you? For a limited period of time (we used to do this with houses)?

For me, I would opt for the boat, but I am not ready to go the Med yet! YMMV!

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perfect boat?

I've never heard of such a creature.
cruising is entirely about showing up--in boat shoes.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:32   #4
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if its important to you, go now with what you can.
sometimes waiting for 'perfect' means you wait too long.
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The boat can take you to the place and along the way it will help you to redefine the word "perfect"
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Man, you two are lucky! You found a perfect place AND a perfect boat! I can't even find a perfect pair of shoes.
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Originally Posted by Pelagic View Post
The boat can take you to the place and along the way it will help you to redefine the word "perfect"
AHHHH Pelagic,

Once again wise words Mr.!!!!!!!!!!!......i2f
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My wife has 50 pairs on board come and take your pick!!!

But for Hanna and Chris it is hard to beat the value of boats in the US and Caribbean and the beauty of sailing the Bahamas and Caribbean. You have your sailing ambitions back to front and in Europe you will spend twice as much to achieve half as much. We are going to do the Med in 2012 but until then it is the Caribbean.

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Old 03-10-2009, 15:39   #9
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For me the pleasure is the sailing. To operate a boat that sails well, is ship shape and gives me pleasure to operate well. Everything from that sunny afternoon run, to a well done anchorage, lights working, no drama. I can only imagine a boat that was less than I liked, giving me frustration while anchored in paradise......I would be fretting over all the things....bad waterline, rusty chain, rudder that is noisy etc.
My wife would vote for the places as most important to her....maybe that is because the boat goes so well it is kinda boring to her I dunno. I find pleasure in launching a dingy, or having clear decks and sheets that run fair.....lot's of little things that be pleasurable, will become work and drudgery on a boat that is not set up and maintained well.
And like Brion Toss once said, "maintenance is important, but you cannot maintain a Yugo into a Mercedes"
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Old 04-10-2009, 14:22   #10
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I would go for the perfect boat. Start in California and sail via the Pacific, Australia and the Indian, S Atlantic to West Indies then on to the Med.

Easy downwind all the way. And an easy downwind passage in the perfect boats is ... well, just cream !

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go for the boat and sail to the place.. that IS the point of a boat isn't it?

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I agree; get the boat and sail it to where ever. It will take you to the place and on the way you're probably find more of them. Nothing says you have to head directly to the pre-planned perfect place.
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Old 07-10-2009, 13:26   #13
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Perfect place.... if the boat floats you'll make it work.
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Old 07-10-2009, 13:41   #14
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This is an older thread I think? Which did you pick?

For me the perfect place was Greece. The perfect boat is one you know and trust. I sailed to Greece heading west. Now the plan is to do it again as soon as possible heading the other way.
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Get the perfect boat. The Kentucky one (do they have water? I thought it was an inland state?) would let you cruise to the Caribbean (another perfect place) and hone your skills, then you turn around and sail to the Mediterranean. The passages will be your great learning trips

California is a tad more difficult to get to the Mediterranean. A great sail! But much longer.

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