New York Bight - Wind Energy Areas at Sea

[Seabeau]

Originally Posted by Cadence

Dockhead, You are speaking of Finland not the US with it's insatiable usage of power.
Include the cost of a possible disaster like the ones in Japan and the Ukraine. Three Mile Island was a near miss, I guess.
I wish I did see it as a long term solution to fossil fuels but feel it is swapping one evil for another as it pertains to the ecology.
I'm not a tree hugger but a concerned citizen of the Earth and what we may leave for future generations, at my age it doesn't make a damn difference to me.

Chernobyl was not an accident due to poor plant design, accidental operator error or failed safety components per say. It was the result a seriously flawed Soviet Central Ministry of Power test that deliberately "gagged" critical reactor safety components. All plant operators on duty that day objected strenuously to the test but were forced to participate in spite of their official and recorded objections. . Like the staffing at most nukes, the Operation staff also comprised the staffing of the station's Fire Brigade. They all died due to extreme radiation exposure while fighting the fires. The WANNO and NRC reports plainly show these facts. Incidentally, at no time during the fiasco at Three Mile Island was the public health jeopardized.

[Montanan]

Interesting report on the high prices that are being obtained for the development rights on offshore property lots during the auctions.

Also note the huge engagement of the major petroleum companies entering the renewable electric power market as those companies are evolving themselves to discontinue fossil fuel production / revenue. These Oil and Gas companies are willing to pay premium price for sites to develop whereas the established major wind power developers have not been winning the rights in the most recent auctions. Interlopers one may call these Fossil fuelers.

Also the CfD is dropping considerably since 2017 based on the lower cost of wind power due to technology advancements especially as to the much larger diameters and GW capacities and the higher capacity factor.

"While Britain offers a guaranteed return on some renewables, the amount has fallen sharply, tracking lower development costs.

At a 2019 auction for contract for differences (CfD), which guarantee operators a minimum price for electricity sold, a record low price of 39.65 pounds per megawatt hour (MWh) was achieved, some 30% lower than the previous auction held in 2017 and lower than current average electricity prices.

The next CfD auction is expected at the end of 2021, too early in the development process for the recent Crown Estate lease winners."

https://gcaptain.com/high-stakes-at-...eid=5626ef2c30

[Cadence]

Originally Posted by Seabeau

Chernobyl was not an accident due to poor plant design, accidental operator error or failed safety components per say. It was the result a seriously flawed Soviet Central Ministry of Power test that deliberately "gagged" critical reactor safety components. All plant operators on duty that day objected strenuously to the test but were forced to participate in spite of their official and recorded objections. . Like the staffing at most nukes, the Operation staff also comprised the staffing of the station's Fire Brigade. They all died due to extreme radiation exposure while fighting the fires. The WANNO and NRC reports plainly show these facts. Incidentally, at no time during the fiasco at Three Mile Island was the public health jeopardized.

The cause? The point is it did happen.

[AKA-None]

Originally Posted by Cadence

Low cost maybe to the individual on their power bill. One needs to see what the tax ramifications are for depleted fuel disposal of maybe I should say storage.

Incidental costs are usually left to society to address at some random future date. Whether it be spent fuel rods, air or water pollution or simply dung piles from work animals.

[Cadence]

Originally Posted by AKA-None

Incidental costs are usually left to society to address at some random future date. Whether it be spent fuel rods, air or water pollution or simply dung piles from work animals.

Unfortunately!

[Montanan]

An interesting and informative read.

Navigating wind farms: The dos and the don’ts

Toby Heppell April 24, 2020

Yachting Monthly

https://www.yachtingmonthly.com/sail...he-donts-72009

[Cadence]

Originally Posted by Montanan

An interesting and informative read.

Navigating wind farms: The dos and the don’ts

Toby Heppell April 24, 2020

Yachting Monthly

https://www.yachtingmonthly.com/sail...he-donts-72009

Thanks for the link.

[Montanan]

Samsung Heavy Industry Unveils New Wind Turbine Installation Vessel Design

These are remarkable, large ships with long legs to avail lifting itself and its huge crane far out of the influence of the water so as to be a stable platform to install the massive wind turbine towers and the generator nacelle and the blades.

https://gcaptain.com/samsung-heavy-i...eid=5626ef2c30

[Cadence]

Originally Posted by Montanan

Samsung Heavy Industry Unveils New Wind Turbine Installation Vessel Design

These are remarkable, large ships with long legs to avail lifting itself and its huge crane far out of the influence of the water so as to be a stable platform to install the massive wind turbine towers and the generator nacelle and the blades.

https://gcaptain.com/samsung-heavy-i...eid=5626ef2c30

I feel sure the people capable of installing oil rigs could install wind turbine platforms. Just a guess. What do the Danes use?

[Midnight Son]

Originally Posted by Cadence

I feel sure the people capable of installing oil rigs could install wind turbine platforms. Just a guess. What do the Danes use?

Pretty much as in the post above yours.
Best wishes.

[Seabeau]

Originally Posted by Cadence

The cause? The point is it did happen.

The real point is, that at the present, nuclear power is the only renewable energy source, that has the energy density necessary to supply the US's industrial and residential electrical needs 24/7. The failure of Germany's version of "The Green New Deal" shows this quite plainly and painfully and let's not forget California's yearly seasonal electrical "brown outs" due to the same short sightedness'.

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by Seabeau

The real point is, that at the present, nuclear power is the only renewable energy source, that has the energy density necessary to supply the US's industrial and residential electrical needs 24/7 ...

Not as presently constructed.
It would take a minimum of 10 to 20 years, of very concerted effort, to build the Nuclear capacity to [largely] power the US [or any Country]. It’s probably worthwhile to start down that road, concurrent with other strategies to decarbonise our world; but it’s no single, simple, instant solution.

[Cadence]

Originally Posted by GordMay

Not as presently constructed.
It would take a minimum of 10 to 20 years, of very concerted effort, to build the Nuclear capacity to [largely] power the US [or any Country]. It’s probably worthwhile to start down that road, concurrent with other strategies to decarbonise our world; but it’s no single, simple, instant solution.

[Montanan]

Meanwhile in Hong Kong;

CLP, one of the two main electricity generators of Hong Kong, said it is revisiting offshore wind technology, and may submit proposals for an offshore wind farm to the local government for their next five-year development plan starting 2023. Hong Kong, a city with sky-high land prices, has already set a goal to achieve net-zero emissions by 2050. To do so it will have to eliminate fossil fuels, which currently accounts for 75% of its power generation, with nuclear and renewables mostly imported from China making up the rest.

“When you look at land being quite a valuable and a scarce resource. That leads you to think, well, what about the water?” chief executive officer Richard Lancaster said in a media briefing last week. “It is much more economic now to build offshore wind than it was 10 years ago.”
The average offshore wind project cost about $134 per megawatt-hour in 2010. That’s fallen to about $89 this year.

[Hoodsail]

Take a look at Sail magazine's Jan/Feb 2021 issue (p10-11). Quick description of UK wind farm, London Array. World's largest offshore wind farm, 175 turbines, out to sea off the Thames estuary. Delivers approx 1 gigawatt/day. Well lit individually at nite, huge radar target, marked on nav charts, blade clearance is about 72ft above MHW spring. GO WIND!