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Old 15-04-2020, 17:00   #946
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Bad news for those who think we can open up early but some good news. Also more confirmation that the virus attacks many organs in the body and lasting effects are awful.

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Hydroxychloroquone does not clear coronavirus, but can alleviate systems, study says

A study of COVID-19 patients (in China) who received hydroxychloroquine showed the anti-malarial drug did not clear the patients of the virus.
"The overall 28-day negative conversion rate was not different between [standard-of-care] plus [hydroxychloroquine and standard-of-care] group (Kaplan-Meier estimates 85.4% versus 81.3%, P=0.341)," researchers wrote in the study. "Negative conversion rate at day 4, 7, 10, 14 or 21 was also similar between the two groups. No different 28-day symptoms alleviation rate was observed between the two groups."

The research*consisted of 150 patients who were hospitalized with COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus.*It has not yet been peer-reviewed and*was published earlier this month on the medXiv repository.

Despite not clearing the patients of the virus, the researchers noted the drug,*touted by President Trump as a "game-changer," did alleviate some symptoms.

"The administration of [hydroxychloroquine] did not result in a higher negative conversion rate but more alleviation of clinical symptoms than [standard-of-care] alone in patients hospitalized with COVID-19 without receiving antiviral treatment, possibly through anti-inflammatory effects," researchers added. The doctors also observed a "normalization of C-reactive protein and blood lymphocyte count" within the 28-day period.

The study was conducted at 16 treatment centers in China through Feb. 11 to 29, 2020 and 75 patients received the drug and 75 received standard-of-care.

There were some side effects in*the group of 75 who took the drug, first used for malaria nearly 70 years ago, but most were mild, the most common being diarrhea, at 10 percent of patients.

The*Food and Drug Administration*recently*announced*an emergency use authorization to try several drugs, including hydroxychloroquine*and chloroquine, in an effort to combat COVID-19,*despite a lack of clear evidence of their effectiveness.

A study in Brazil testing chloroquine in COVID-19 patients had to be stopped earlier this week after patients who took high doses of the drug*developed dangerous heart rhythm problems.

Last month, the University of Washington and New York University*announced an eight-week study that*aims to determine whether hydroxychloroquine can prevent COVID-19.

A study*published*in March*by French researchers suggested that COVID-19 patients could be treated with antimalarial medication and antibiotics*in the battle against the novel*coronavirus.

New York State recently started*coronavirus*drug trials in an attempt to control the pandemic's impact on the state, according to Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who announced*the state had*acquired 70,000 doses of hydroxychloroquine, 10,000 doses of zithromax and 750,000 doses of chloroquine.

Hydroxychloroquine*and*chloroquine*are antimalarial drugs. No drug should be taken without a doctor's prescription.

Per: Chris Ciaccia a Fox News
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Not that I care about sports or concerts or any large gathering, the issue is the venue's themselves, some have cost hundreds of millions and more to build. One new sports stadium in Arlington Texas was just finished and there is millions in bonds against it.

How will those bonds be repaid? What about all of the workers nationwide who are out of a job, what about the companies and people who supply the different venues?

Schools are discussing opening with new social distancing rules, reducing class sizes to accommodate this. Many schools are at, near or over capacity with 30 plus students per class, how are they going to accommodate reducing the class by 1/2 or more?

The ramifications are enormous we consider what is being proposed means.

I have heard from the PTB that Americans should consider what they have been going through to be the "New Normal"?

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There are 632,878 cases in the US with 27,850 deaths.
The world has 2,047,731 cases with 133,354 deaths


Does anybody care about the stats or should I stop?
Please continue.
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There are 632,878 cases in the US with 27,850 deaths.
The world has 2,047,731 cases with 133,354 deaths


Does anybody care about the stats or should I stop?
Numbers are kind of impersonal, perhaps just post their names.
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Washington state extends shelter in place to May 4

Gov. Jay Inslee announced that Washington state's shelter-in-place order has been extended to May 4.

Washington, the first state to record a coronavirus case in the U.S., currently has 10,694 confirmed cases and 541 deaths, according to the state's health department.

Inslee warned that more testing will be needed.

"Testing is the biggest challenge, and will be the biggest hurdle,"
he said at a press conference.

Discussing the timetable for a full reopening of his state, the governor told the ABC News "Powerhouse Politics" podcast that it will be "later than we would like."

"It's not the right time today or even two weeks from now, because the modeling has shown clearly that the curve will start to go up again if we were to full scale remove our social distancing measures right now that are having a beneficial impact," Inslee said.
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N.Y.C. Death Toll Soars Past 10,000 in Revised Virus Count

The city has added more than 3,700 additional people who were presumed to have died of the coronavirus but had never tested positive.

A triage tent at Elmhurst Hospital Medical Center in Queens, which has been inundated with patients during the coronavirus outbreak. Credit...James Estrin/The New York Times
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New York City, already a world epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak, sharply increased its death toll by more than 3,700 victims on Tuesday, after officials said they were now including people who had never tested positive for the virus but were presumed to have died of it.

The new figures, released by the city’s Health Department, drove up the number of people killed in New York City to more than 10,000, and appeared to increase the overall United States death count by 17 percent to more then 26,000,

The numbers brought into clearer focus the staggering toll the virus has already taken on the largest city in the United States, where deserted streets are haunted by the near-constant howl of ambulance sirens. Far more people have died in New York City, on a per-capita basis, than in Italy — the hardest-hit country in Europe.

Source: New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene·Note: All data are preliminary and subject to change. Data as of April 13.
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Why is America running out of masks for the Coronavirus pandemic?


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The city has added more than 3,700 additional people who were presumed to have died of the coronavirus but had never tested positive.

Oh so now on top of those who tested positive and then died of something else counting, the figures are obviously not high enough so now we are working on presumption - Awesome


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Oh so now on top of those who tested positive and then died of something else counting, the figures are obviously not high enough so now we are working on presumption - Awesome


The most important event in generations, and its Mickey Mouse time.
Not only that, they’re comparing per capita figures of New York City to Italy (a country).
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Washington state extends shelter in place to May 4

Gov. Jay Inslee announced that Washington state's shelter-in-place order has been extended to May 4.

Washington, the first state to record a coronavirus case in the U.S., currently has 10,694 confirmed cases and 541 deaths, according to the state's health department.

Inslee warned that more testing will be needed.



Discussing the timetable for a full reopening of his state, the governor told the ABC News "Powerhouse Politics" podcast that it will be "later than we would like."

"It's not the right time today or even two weeks from now, because the modeling has shown clearly that the curve will start to go up again if we were to full scale remove our social distancing measures right now that are having a beneficial impact," Inslee said.

Thank you I think that your posting are usefull and informing. I don't always agree with the news inside. I didn't say it was right or wrong just I don't always agree,as in this line (
"Testing is the biggest challenge, and will be the biggest hurdle,"
he said at a press conference. ) I think the biggest challenge is "a cure" not testing or relief or numbers. A cure. I see lots of talk about numbers and economy etc. But the focus should be on cure. The person in I C U with ventilator is not worried about his or anyone else's money. Neither is the person living under a bridge trying to find next meal with out see anyone. all talk of money should be spent on protection and cure. KEEP POSTING I will try to keep reading. Lee
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Can someone confirm or deny this as just tabloid crap:


Australia are thinking of lifting restrictions BUT everyone must carry an app that monitors your every move.
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https://apple.news/AisnLVi0ERUqRyPizEJkrXw


“China for the first time publicized a breakdown of people testing positive for the novel coronavirus without outward signs of being sick, revealing that those among them who remain symptom-free throughout infection are in the majority.

Among 6,764 people who tested positive for infection without showing symptoms, only one fifth of them -- 1,297 -- have so far developed symptoms and been re-classified as confirmed cases, China’s National Health Commission spokesman Mi Feng said at a briefing in Beijing Wednesday.”



If this data holds up then the actual infection rate is up to 5 times more than the “confirmed case” rate. Which means the percentage of infected persons that get serious complications is much lower than 1%. And it also means we will have a very hard time getting rid of this disease because 80% of the infected are unwitting carriers.

China clearly knew this many weeks ago which is a bit infuriating as well.
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Can someone confirm or deny this as just tabloid crap:


Australia are thinking of lifting restrictions BUT everyone must carry an app that monitors your every move.
It's tabloid crap.

The gubbermit is looking at various possible tracking apps but using them is purely voluntary. If enough people use it in a given area, it can help in finding infectious hotspots.

Repeat - there is no compulsion to have a smart phone with you or have the proposed app.
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Can someone confirm or deny this as just tabloid crap:


Australia are thinking of lifting restrictions BUT everyone must carry an app that monitors your every move.
It’s starting to sound like the CCP will be in control.
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