Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse

[TeddyDiver]

Originally Posted by CaptTom

And I thought I was only learning about obscure maritime law. Now I'm learning ancient Greek!

Anyway, back to the current (1890) law, I'm a bit confused about how this applies to an accident like this. It seems to put a lot of emphasis on "intentional" acts, like tossing over cargo to maintain stability. I assume there's a small clause somewhere I missed, since it's been applied in similar situations before.

yup, I don't see much else to toss but the part of the bridge on the boat...

[Don C L]

Originally Posted by Wotname

By the law of Rhodes, it is provided that, if the cargo has been thrown away thanks to the lifting of the ship, that which has been given for all should be compensated by the contribution of all.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0673328/

Just saw this yesterday and Perry explains this law!

[Montanan]

Some heavy lifting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1OQu7Gv5Lc

[MicHughV]

I believe the correct term would be ancient "Latin"

[Kettlewell]

Limited recreational boat access opening to Baltimore. https://www.chesapeakebaymagazine.co...-boat-traffic/

[JPA Cate]

Yes, heavy lifting, and preparing for re-cycling, I hope.

Ann

[Montanan]

Crews turn sights to removing debris from ship's deck in Baltimore bridge collapse cleanup


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/crews-turn-sights-to-removing-debris-from-ship-s-deck-in-baltimore-bridge-collapse-cleanup/ar-AA1nk6QW?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=feb4d71b23d846 91e272b13f45721d7c&ei=15

Snipet:

So far, cranes have lifted about 120 containers from the Dali, with another 20 to go before workers can build a staging area and begin removing pieces of the mangled steel and crumbling concrete.

. . .

Salvage crews at the site of the collapsed Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore are turning their focus to the thousands of tons of debris sitting atop the Dali,

An estimated 3,000 to 4,000 tons of steel and concrete landed on the ship’s deck after it crashed into one of the bridge’s supporting columns and toppled the span, . . . Crews will have to remove all that before refloating the stationary ship and guiding it back into the Port of Baltimore.

[Montanan]

Progress.

Third shipping channel opened at site of collapsed Baltimore bridge

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/th...211efcf3&ei=30

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers removed a large piece of steel debris from the water to help open the temporary shipping lane for commercially essential vessels.


Crews have so far removed about 1,300 tons of steel from the Patapsco River and 120 containers from the cargo ship Dali.
. . .
Plans are now being formulated to re-float and remove the Dali.

Officials from the Army Corps of Engineers and U.S. Coast Guard hope to eventually tow the stricken vessel to a dock in Baltimore, but need to remove sections of damaged bridge from the ship before any refloating sequence.

[Jim Cate]

^^^^

I keep hearing the term "refloating" as used above. The ship appears to already be floating, so what do they mean? One assumes that there is significant hull damage from the allision, but she appears to be in reasonable trim, all things considered!

Jim

[senormechanico]

With all the weight of the roadbed and lots of bridge pieces, the bow is most likely firmly aground.

[JPA Cate]

^^^^
Not only that, but there may [likely] be internal damage of the vessel structure. Refloating it sounds good when you say it fast, and we all hope that can be done, in a timely fashion, but there are a number of spots where it could go wrong. Perhaps they'll decide that they have to unload it all the way, and ultimately, remove it in sections. We just have to wait and see.

[skipperpete]

There’s a body of opinion that reckons Dali is going to be difficult to shift, initially I thought that the loss of speed just prior to the allision was due to the engine being restarted in astern but there is also the probability that she grounded just prior to contacting the pylon, maybe in the last 200 metres, at that point she was well to the side of the main channel. I’m very interested to hear the final outcome of the investigations but it can’t be a happy ending for the chief engineer and by extension.... the master.
I think there’ll be little appetite to carry our a full repair on the ship too, Alang or Chittagong might have one more on the beach after and if she gets off the bottom.

[MicHughV]

All that aside, they've been making remarkable progress on cleaning up the wreckage.

Somewhat north of me a ship turning in a channel flopped over and came to rest on the edge of a navigable channel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK6dg9h5uv4

They brought in some heavy machinery and basically cut the ship in pieces and removed it. A remarkable achievement, no matter how you look at.

Will the Dali be cut up ? That remains to be seen, but I'm off the opinion, they will try to repair it.
My 2c only off course

[RaymondR]

Originally Posted by JPA Cate

^^^^
Not only that, but there may [likely] be internal damage of the vessel structure. Refloating it sounds good when you say it fast, and we all hope that can be done, in a timely fashion, but there are a number of spots where it could go wrong. Perhaps they'll decide that they have to unload it all the way, and ultimately, remove it in sections. We just have to wait and see.

It's possible that the containers, and non perishable contents, might be worth more than the vessel in which case salvaging the containers may be the priority.

[JPA Cate]

^^^^^
Certainly, especially if they've been able to keep the refrigerated ones cold! There's a whole lot we don't know.

Ann