Survival challenge

[Mattdewizard]

Your boat capsizes. You an 6 crew are trapped in a water tight pilot house. During capsize there was a crew member on deck. They were wearing a survival suit with life vest, epirb attached, and your boat is equiped with a float free life raft. Your boat has been turtled for ten minutes. Possibly the mast is hanging on by the rigging keeping the boat from righting. The crew member on deck could now be unconscious or injured and unable to get in life raft. There are survival suits for everyone in the pilot house. Do you open the companionway door putting everybody in further jeopardy to help the person in the water or not?

[Mattdewizard]

There is no option of swimming through a hatch and surfacing.

[boatman61]

If he's unconscious and been in the water for 10mins he's dead.. if injured he's likely dead as well.
What's your plan, hope it eventually rights itself or, do you all suit up and swim to the raft..

[Mattdewizard]

I consider it a case of diminishing returns, as captain I have the lives of six healthy crew to keep safe. I only instruct the crew to abandon ship as a last resort.

[boatman61]

So how long do you and the crew sit in the upturned Hull, till you run out a canned food and fresh water...???

[goboatingnow]

These “ fantastical “ extreme hypothetical situations are ridiculous. In real life nothing is so black and white. The answer is that the real situation is based on real circumstances and a decision can only be taken in that context

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by Mattdewizard

Your boat capsizes. You an 6 crew are trapped in a water tight pilot house. During capsize there was a crew member on deck. They were wearing a survival suit with life vest, epirb attached, and your boat is equiped with a float free life raft. Your boat has been turtled for ten minutes. Possibly the mast is hanging on by the rigging keeping the boat from righting. The crew member on deck could now be unconscious or injured and unable to get in life raft. There are survival suits for everyone in the pilot house. Do you open the companionway door putting everybody in further jeopardy to help the person in the water or not?

Sorry. Are you suggesting

1. You know the boat floats safely inverted

2 you are somehow intimately aware of the condition of the deck person

I’m sorry , the “ scenario “ is so contrived as to be ridiculous.

If you are asking a general question , do you put others at risk to save another from risk. The answer is “ it depends “

[Sam Woodbridge]

It depends strikes again! Where is that guy ItDepends? Is he lurking the forums? Is he on a sailing ship of some sorts..

I like Boatman’s response as I don’t have one

[StuM]

hypothetical

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Sam Woodbridge

It depends strikes again! Where is that guy ItDepends? Is he lurking the forums? Is he on a sailing ship of some sorts..

I like Boatman’s response as I don’t have one

I am assuming he is talking about his 'dream boat'.. the aluminium centre boarder..
If that's the case he should remember that air will be escaping from the Hull and if he is concerned about his crew he'd get them in their survival suits and up to the liferaft (if it's still there) ASAP..

[Mattdewizard]

Originally Posted by boatman61

So how long do you and the crew sit in the upturned Hull, till you run out a canned food and fresh water...???

Yes. And don't forget about air. I would keep a second raft in the pilot house. Then when the seas calm go for it. I like the idea of cruising with the odds and n my favor.

[boatman61]

Don't we all, few of us are suicidal contrary to popular belief..

Oh.. and it can take six days or more for systems to pass.. believe it or not.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by Sam Woodbridge

It depends strikes again! Where is that guy ItDepends? Is he lurking the forums? Is he on a sailing ship of some sorts..



I like Boatman’s response as I don’t have one

“It depends “ is a master skipper cognisant of variables, requiring on the spot decisions rather then armchair theorising

Good guy to have on board in a crisis.

[Jim Cate]

Originally Posted by Mattdewizard

Yes. And don't forget about air. I would keep a second raft in the pilot house. Then when the seas calm go for it. I like the idea of cruising with the odds and n my favor.

From what you have posted so far my take is that you will never go cruising.

Jim

[Mattdewizard]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

Sorry. Are you suggesting

1. You know the boat floats safely inverted

2 you are somehow intimately aware of the condition of the deck person

I’m sorry , the “ scenario “ is so contrived as to be ridiculous.

If you are asking a general question , do you put others at risk to save another from risk. The answer is “ it depends “

The boat has multiple water tight bulkheads and will float safely well after help should be expected to arrive. There are many unknowns including the condition of the man overboard. All you can be sure of is that by putting your crew in the water and then hopefully secondary life raft early is that you are exposing them to additional life threatening risk.