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Old 15-10-2022, 16:31   #16
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Yes. And don't forget about air. I would keep a second raft in the pilot house. Then when the seas calm go for it. I like the idea of cruising with the odds and n my favor.


You’d have a “ life raft “ in the pilot house as well as another elsewhere.

Of course why nit have a midget submarine ,full auto re-inversion systems , a colour tv and a grand piano in there to pass the time
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From what you have posted so far my take is that you will never go cruising.

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LOL Jim. Actually I'll sleep much better cruising knowing I've prepared for the worst.
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You’d have a “ life raft “ in the pilot house as well as another elsewhere.

Of course why nit have a midget submarine ,full auto re-inversion systems , a colour tv and a grand piano in there to pass the time
LOL goboatingnow. Sounds like your describing my "other" boat.
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Old 15-10-2022, 17:20   #19
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LOL Jim. Actually I'll sleep much better cruising knowing I've prepared for the worst.
We will see... talk is inexpensive and the supply is good.

Report back when you take delivery of your new boat, and then again after your first successful cruise. Then I will congratulate you and admit that I was wrong.

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We will see... talk is inexpensive and the supply is good.

Report back when you take delivery of your new boat, and then again after your first successful cruise. Then I will congratulate you and admit that I was wrong.

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Wrong about what? I love midget subs. I hope you don't mind if I let 20 to 30 something year old female crew giving you the reports. I might be busy working on my emp shielding.
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So how long do you and the crew sit in the upturned Hull, till you run out a canned food and fresh water...???


No, until they run out of oxygen and asphyxiate which is a lot sooner.
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No, until they run out of oxygen and asphyxiate which is a lot sooner.
It would be enough oxygen to give the crew time to prepare to depart possibly even wait put the storm completely. Time is very valuable in a survival situation.
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Why the bizarre preoccupation with "capsizing"?

Jim is not the only one to have concluded that you, Matt, is MOST unlikely ever to go cruising. Are you sure that your presence in this forum is motivated by a desire to learn the skills that are required to do that, and not by something our rules do not permit?

We can but tell you what those skills are. Your ACQUISITION of them will require sustained effort over many years. Generally, those few men and women who evolve into successful cruising men and women have the humility to start "from the bottom up" in small vessels, 30 footers or even smaller. Humility, unfortunately, is not something on offer in the market, so you will have to find it elsewhere:-).

It is because seafaring is so complex that we have marine academies. Are you sure you are up to such a challenge?

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Why the bizarre preoccupation with "capsizing"?

Jim is not the only one to have concluded that you, Matt, is MOST unlikely ever to go cruising. Are you sure that your presence in this forum is motivated by a desire to learn the skills that are required to do that, and not by something our rules do not permit?

We can but tell you what those skills are. Your ACQUISITION of them will require sustained effort over many years. Generally, those few men and women who evolve into successful cruising men and women have the humility to start "from the bottom up" in small vessels, 30 footers or even smaller. Humility, unfortunately, is not something on offer in the market, so you will have to find it elsewhere:-).

It is because seafaring is so complex that we have marine academies. Are you sure you are up to such a challenge?

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I going straight for the 60 footers.
I don't understand what you mean by something your rules do not permit Cruising is in my blood like fine women.
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The less fortunate can start their careers and n sailing dinghies if they like.
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Ouch! I made the mistake of viewing his profile. Once seen - never forgotten!
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Re: Survival challenge

Can I just go back to one thing, how do you know the condition of the crew outside if you are sealed up in the boat? Windows in the hull?

Also It sounds like you are saying that being inside a hermetically sealed, inverted pilothouse is the place that is safer, and where you have more control, thus preferable to being outside in a survival suit with a liferaft and EPIRB. In this scenario I volunteer to be the one outside, even if I am unconscious!

Get a nice Hans Christian or Lord Nelson and try that for a while is my suggestion.
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It would be enough oxygen to give the crew time to prepare to depart possibly even wait put the storm completely. Time is very valuable in a survival situation.
I wasn't being serious, responding to Boatie’s answer.
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The less fortunate can start their careers and n sailing dinghies if they like.
Pfffff..... that's me then. I learned in dinghies, raced them at UK national level and instructed (other) kids. What a time that was. Then onto OPBs racing around the UK. And now I sail my X like I did the various racing dinghies even though we're 'merely' cruising.

A wind speed change of just a knot or two or a couple of degrees change in wind direction will wake me up and get me on deck. "All well, seems we need to let out the sails a touch?". "Papa, how did you know?"

Do by all means step straight into the 60 footer, but beware that sailing yachts are like horses, they need to be tamed. And it is your skill alone which determines whether it's a wild horse or a tame Shetland pony on which you sit. And I can assure you that, having had 50 years doing this, sitting on a wild horse (ie, when learning) is 'manageable' when it's a Laser. On a 60 footer it will at the least guarantee noone will sail with you again (you mention 'fine women' in their 20s and 30s, who I suspect will not be weather beaten themselves, they will grow to thoroughly hate the experience and by extension, probably you too, poor them). And that's the more favourable outcome, it's only downhill from there. Trust me I have sailed enough on OPBs to recognize wild horse vs tame pony.

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