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**a64pilot** · 24-02-2015, 14:25

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Originally Posted by rwidman

Many, many years ago I had a friend who made his living placing condom machines in bars and selling condoms (yes, really). Sales were slow on the cheaper condoms so he doubled the price. Sales went up, not down. Same condom. People thought a 50 cent condom was better than a 25 cent condom.

Regardless, if someone's anchor does everything they ask of it, how can another anchor be "better"?

I haven't had a need for one of those for a VERY long time, but I will freely admit that I'd buy the more expensive one, that's not something that I'd want to cheap out on

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glenn.225 · 24-02-2015, 14:39

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Originally Posted by a64pilot

I haven't had a need for one of those for a VERY long time, but I will freely admit that I'd buy the more expensive one, that's not something that I'd want to cheap out on

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At least that you would admit to on a public forum.

rwidman · 24-02-2015, 14:40

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Originally Posted by a64pilot

I haven't had a need for one of those for a VERY long time, but I will freely admit that I'd buy the more expensive one, that's not something that I'd want to cheap out on

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My point is, it was the same condom, he just doubled the price. People thought it must be better at 50 cents so they bought them.

zboss · 24-02-2015, 15:23

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Originally Posted by a64pilot

I haven't had a need for one of those for a VERY long time, but I will freely admit that I'd buy the more expensive one, that's not something that I'd want to cheap out on

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Well, naturally, I have to spend more on condoms because larger condoms cost more.

Aikiguy · 24-02-2015, 15:34

Anyone know what the last page of the reprint really means? It was done as marketing to make the Ronca be the best anchor there is of course, but this line:

"Results of aluminium anchors have been adjusted to allow comparison to steel anchors"

Really confuses me. It tells me that they really messed with the data so they would be the best!

Guy
:-)

Stonefloat · 24-02-2015, 15:45

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Originally Posted by zboss

Well, naturally, I have to spend more on condoms because larger condoms cost more.

Well, I guess size would always matter on an Anchor thread

Cheers, Stonefloat

**a64pilot** · 24-02-2015, 15:56

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Originally Posted by Aikiguy

Anyone know what the last page of the reprint really means? It was done as marketing to make the Ronca be the best anchor there is of course, but this line:

"Results of aluminium anchors have been adjusted to allow comparison to steel anchors"

Really confuses me. It tells me that they really messed with the data so they would be the best!

Guy
:-)

I'm going out on a limb here, but bet they are saying you can't compare aluminum anchors to steel ones based on weight, surface area of an aluminum one would be significantly greater

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rwidman · 24-02-2015, 16:17

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Originally Posted by zboss

Well, naturally, I have to spend more on condoms because larger condoms cost more.

Did you know that each condom has a unique serial number?

Fortress · 25-02-2015, 11:55

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Originally Posted by hpeer

Brian,

I see your point and was thinking of the angle effect myself after I made the above post.

But what is one to do? If you are limited In your cruising range to the Chessie or like or like conditions then there is one best solution.

If you spend the majority of your time on rocky shores, or about coral reefs the answer may be different for each situation.

If you're travel between all the above, then what? Have a multitude of anchors?

My answer has been to go BIG! And pray the windlass holds up!

No doubt the Danforth type anchors are an excellent choice in Chessie mud, which is all most folks will ever know. I carry one on each boat, just not as the primary.

Hpeer - "Go BIG" is a common strategy among many cruising sailors, while others believe that having an arsenal of anchors in order to have the "right tool for the job" is the best strategy.

There are certainly bottoms where a twin-fluke Danforth-type anchor is going to be challenged: Grass, weeds, and rocks immediately come to mind.

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Originally Posted by Aikiguy

Anyone know what the last page of the reprint really means? It was done as marketing to make the Ronca be the best anchor there is of course, but this line:

"Results of aluminium anchors have been adjusted to allow comparison to steel anchors"

Really confuses me. It tells me that they really messed with the data so they would be the best!

Guy
:-)

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Originally Posted by a64pilot

I'm going out on a limb here, but bet they are saying you can't compare aluminum anchors to steel ones based on weight, surface area of an aluminum one would be significantly greater

Aikiguy & a64pilot, that chart took some real creativity.

First, they said that the 21 lb Fortress FX-37 was similar in size to a 50 lb steel Danforth-type anchor, which is totally false, it is close in size to the 35 lb HT model. The rest of the calculations for the chart are a bit of a mystery.