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Old 10-06-2021, 12:08   #61
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Re: La Vagabonde's new Trimaran

That's a cute story but you avoided the question.

Now because you avoided the question I get to add one more question to my previous question, do you believe sailing on the ocean is
A: more dangerous
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B: less dangerous

than driving a long distance on the road?
Also, because of the avoidance this poll is now open to anyone wishing to play.
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Old 10-06-2021, 12:20   #62
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That's a cute story but you avoided the question.

Now because you avoided the question I get to add one more question to my previous question, do you believe sailing on the ocean is
A: more dangerous
or
B: less dangerous

than driving a long distance on the road?
Also, because of the avoidance this poll is now open to anyone wishing to play.


I think it would be more common to find someone falling of a monohull doing 5 kts than a 60í trimaran with a 34í beam doing 20 kts.
Letís hope that answers one of your questions.
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Old 10-06-2021, 13:01   #63
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I think it would be more common to find someone falling of a monohull doing 5 kts than a 60í trimaran with a 34í beam doing 20 kts.
Letís hope that answers one of your questions.
For the sake of this discussion can we say that the monohull is an Imoca and the trimaran is an Imoca with training wheels?
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Old 10-06-2021, 13:10   #64
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For the sake of this discussion can we say that the monohull is an Imoca and the trimaran is an Imoca with training wheels?


Sure, the Imoca 60 with a 19í beam
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Given the beam on the Rapido is twice that of the Imoca and she heels way less I would say the chances of a MOB is substantially more on the Imoca.
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Old 10-06-2021, 13:27   #65
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I can see what you are saying but the Imoca does have that awesome 4.5M steel keel. At 5kt on an Imoca I'm taking a nap. I guess we have to take into account the sea state thought... In the back of my mind is the thought of strong gusts..
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Old 10-06-2021, 13:35   #66
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The Rapido 60 should be making 20 kts in about 18kts true wind on the beam, Iím guessing thatís about as close to a magic carpet ride as you can get.
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Like a hot knife through butter ..

Wow Riley is going to send it like he has always wanted to. This is going to be awesome!!
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For the sake of this discussion can we say that the monohull is an Imoca and the trimaran is an Imoca with training wheels?


It wasnít me!
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It wasnít me!
It most definetly was 😁
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Not ideal for kids and a growing family. I've owned and sailed tris for the last 20 years, and I love the boat they chose, but not for a family cruising with toddlers and babies. I also raised kids and know what it's like to keep the family involved and safe.

If they have a MOB while sailing at speed (Reilly's notorious for not tethering) and whoever is left has to handle kids and boat while watching/locating and retrieving the MOB? Terrifying thoughts.
In regards to the space issue with two kids we don't know what the plan is. It would not surprise me if they establish a base on land. Lenny is getting close to school age. Maybe the deal with Elena was she would give up the space if they also set up a base on land.

A cool set up would be if they end up with an off the grid base on land in beautiful spot on a South Pacific island or beautiful location in Australia. They have talked about missing being away from family and Australia.

They can stay in an airbnb or similar as needed. Not being tight on $$ means they can make themselves comfortable.

If nothing else the amas offer a lot of storage space. The second cabin in the main hull looks ok for two small kids. Plus they have the salon. The Amas must be big enough to have a cabin in each when they have non family onboard.

Riley would argue that having a boat that is fast enough to sail away from trouble and is able to complete long passage a faster more than makes up for any negative in a mob situation. Everybody ought to be clipped in sooner any kind of rough seas and have GPS transmitter on their harness on a faster boat.

My biggest concern would being buying an early hull of a boat with a new design plus adding electric aux propulsion. There are going to be at the very least lots of kinks to workout. But that makes for good youtube content.
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My first and it remains my last reaction is safety. I have seen too many racing trimarans flip on their sides. Not a pretty thought with toddlers on board.

Fast yes. Safe, I have serious reservations. IMHO.
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Sure, the Imoca 60 with a 19í beam
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Given the beam on the Rapido is twice that of the Imoca and she heels way less I would say the chances of a MOB is substantially more on the Imoca.

Yeh except where are the lifelines on the Rapido?
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Yeh except where are the lifelines on the Rapido?
You don't need lifelines on a Rapido because the safety comes with the speed, as stated numerous times above.
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I think deep down Riley always wanted to sail an Imoca, I know he is a fan of the Vendee Glove has a great respect for the sailors that pilot them. This looks like the perfect compromise for their family.

I do believe one day shall see Riley piloting an Imoca, and he is getting one step closer.
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Yeh except where are the lifelines on the Rapido?


I wouldnít feel the need for lifelines on a boat like that, and also believe on most boats lifelines give a false sense of security.
Iím sure Riley and Elayna will make that decision themselves and Iím sure the children will be in their thoughts.
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