Surviving World War Three at Sea

[TooCoys]

Originally Posted by indiana_ct

Oh go on. We could do with a nuclear war to liven things up.��

[Woodland Hills]

The OP suggests that there would be a period of increasing tensions that would give warning of an impending conflict. Doesn't this rely upon the major powers being led by level headed people with deeply held beliefs and values that would temper impulsive acts. Does anyone think that is the case today in America?

Any Diesel engine made before the 1970s would be mechanically controlled and would be unaffected by EMP. I also doubt very much that lead acid batteries and self-starters would be either. Would the OP be able to outrun any sea pirates in his sailboat if he was chased by an inter island ferry loaded with armed men and powered by a pair of 6-71 diesels?

[Woodland Hills]

Originally Posted by Cpt Pat

That's where I'd be headed. South!

Is that because refugees are welcome everywhere? Who would want you?

[JanetGroene]

Originally Posted by SV Bacchus

Food was mentioned as in what to eat but not where to get it. Publix and Whole Foods will have empty shelves.

That's one of your big problems, people will knife you for a loaf of bread.

See Survival Food Handbook, published by International Marine, and don't forget water and cooking fuel.
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[JanetGroene]

On a related note, do you have any recommendations about eating Pacific seafood? I understand the waters are still filled with radioactive waste.

[Seabeau]

Originally Posted by JanetGroene

On a related note, do you have any recommendations about eating Pacific seafood? I understand the waters are still filled with radioactive waste.

Radioactive waste from where?

[Obi Wan]

Originally Posted by s/v Jedi

Think again. Can you even tell me how many countries the US is bombing at the moment?

Exactly - Zero.

We are engaged in two areas with non-country terrorists - in Iraq/Syria with ISIS and in Afghanistan with the Taliban on a very small scale.

[Woodland Hills]

Originally Posted by Obi Wan

Exactly - Zero.

We are engaged in two areas with non-country terrorists - in Iraq/Syria with ISIS and in Afghanistan with the Taliban on a very small scale.

You forgot Libya, Somalia, Pakistan and Yemen. But I am sure that the folks who live there haven't forgotten.......

[Cpt Pat]

Originally Posted by Copacabana

Quite a few, but that's nothing new. At least they aren't mired in a big war like Vietnam or Korea.

My point was that the world is safer today than ever before- not that there is no conflict or violence.

I'll post this link again as it seems to capture my point better than I can state it:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...erous-now-ever

Do you know why World War One was started? If you do, please tell the historians, because they don't know any rational reason for that war, or even how it started. My point is, people can be irrational, and events can spiral out of control. During the Cuban Missile Crisis, President Kennedy was very much affected by that message in the book: The Guns of August. He was afraid World War Three could start due to a mistake or miscalculation. It nearly did. And Kennedy was dealing with a rational leader in the USSR.

An irrational leader in North Korea cannot be expected to behave rationally. Any calculations of world peace you have seen probably don't include the factor of North Korea possessing deliverable nukes, which they are on the verge of having. It's too recent. And if the US responds preemptively, China and Russia are not going to behave well. All it will take is one mistake. Avoiding an out-of-control escalation will require a US Commander-in-Chief that is rational, reflective, knowledgeable, even-tempered, and difficult to provoke........

[Rudderless]

Originally Posted by Seabeau

Radioactive waste from where?

Nuke testing?

[estarzinger]

Originally Posted by Obi Wan

Exactly - Zero.

We are engaged in two areas with non-country terrorists - in Iraq/Syria with ISIS and in Afghanistan with the Taliban on a very small scale.

LOL - US is publicly "bombing" (including hellfire missiles from drones) Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, and Pakistan.

And we really don't know where else the official military, and the Black CIA drone fleet, are undisclosed 'bombing' - it certainly would not surprise me if some of the many spec ops being run currently in Africa had air/drone support.

[Obi Wan]

Originally Posted by estarzinger

LOL - US is publicly "bombing" (including hellfire missiles from drones) Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, and Pakistan.

No, I didn't "forget anything. A Hellfire missile is not a bomb. You may think it semantics, but it's my line of "business" and words have important meanings and distinctions.

[estarzinger]

^^
Definition: Bomb
noun a container filled with explosive, incendiary material, smoke, gas, or other destructive substance, designed to explode on impact or when detonated by a time mechanism, remote-control device, or lit fuse.

make a Hellfire missile a 'bomb'.

It is a pretty silly argument to make. It does not address Jedi's point at all, and it does not make much difference to those being 'bombed', and I suspect (but can't prove) that in any case US has dropped bombs to your definition in all those places..

[Obi Wan]

Originally Posted by estarzinger

^^
Definition: Bomb
noun a container filled with explosive, incendiary material, smoke, gas, or other destructive substance, designed to explode on impact or when detonated by a time mechanism, remote-control device, or lit fuse.

make a Hellfire missile a 'bomb'.

It is a pretty silly argument to make. It does not address Jedi's point at all, and it does not make much difference to those being 'bombed'.

OK, you win. Congratulations. I just dropped bombs and fired missiles for several decades - what do I know?

[MarkJ]

Originally Posted by Cpt Pat

And Kennedy was dealing with a rational leader in the USSR.

An irrational leader in North Korea cannot be expected to behave rationally.

It's a great time to point out that Putin is rational. And probably a good time to mention Kim is rational too. As is Trump.

Of all the times when we can say it's 'fine and dandy' is now. In the last month all the world's leading nuclear powers have come together to solve North Korea. Even if Kim lets a nuclear weapon off no one will escalate with nukes.

Russia and US have the same idea with safe zones in Syria and are working together as much as they ever have.

ISIS and the Taliban are very small pickings... The US only has Special Forces deployed not real troops. There's no main force of allies operating anywhere.

Terrorism in Europe is really a police action and will increase for a few years until people get sick of it and it will be stamped out.

So really, my advice is to send back the dehydrated rations and de-bunker the swimming pool. Enjoy life! You're not going to die from nuclear war nor anything exciting. You will die like most others in the Western World: obesity and sugar related diseases.


Mark