Cruisers Forum
 

Go Back   Cruisers & Sailing Forums > Engineering & Systems > Construction, Maintenance & Refit
Cruiser Wiki Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Log in

Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 02-12-2020, 12:39   #1
Registered User
 
Popeye46's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: BRISBANE
Boat: PERRY 43 PASSAGEMAKER
Posts: 76
Sealant to install toughened glass with no screws

I have a plastic cat, the toughened glass windows both sides of the coach house are fitted into a rebate using an adhesive sealant, no screws. The boat was built in 2006 and has developed a small leak in one window, the adhesive used is black and could be sikaflex but I doubt it. I don’t want to remove the window so I was thinking of digging out the sealant around the leak and reseal that area. What would have been the original sealant and what sealant would I use to spot repair?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Popeye46 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2020, 13:10   #2
Moderator Emeritus
 
a64pilot's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
Boat: Island Packet 38
Posts: 31,351
Re: Sealant to install toughened glass with no screws

This, it’s used to adhere windows in skyscrapers, it’s extremely flexible, I mean extremely flexible.
https://sweets.construction.com/swts...448/254876.pdf
a64pilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2020, 13:11   #3
cruiser

Join Date: May 2011
Boat: Hitchhiker, Catamaran, 40'
Posts: 1,827
Re: Sealant to install toughened glass with no screws

Dow 795 silicone is what will be recommended. Lots of recent threads here on it. I have had good luck with the black RTV silicone that comes in small tubes but doubt it as good as the Dow 795.
Thumbs Up is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2020, 18:03   #4
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Australia
Boat: BUILT!!! Roberts Mauritius 43ft
Posts: 3,671
Re: Sealant to install toughened glass with no screws

I used Fixtech which I think is used to glue car windscreens in place


https://www.fixtech.com.au/
coopec43 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2020, 18:48   #5
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 112
Re: Sealant to install toughened glass with no screws

Quote:
Originally Posted by Popeye46 View Post
I have a plastic cat, the toughened glass windows both sides of the coach house are fitted into a rebate using an adhesive sealant, no screws. The boat was built in 2006 and has developed a small leak in one window, the adhesive used is black and could be sikaflex but I doubt it. I don’t want to remove the window so I was thinking of digging out the sealant around the leak and reseal that area. What would have been the original sealant and what sealant would I use to spot repair?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Use NP1 or OSI one part urithane structural sealant, 3/8 inch bead or larger.
Then forget about it for 20 years.
atlroofman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2020, 09:21   #6
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Portland, Oregon USA
Boat: Island Packet, Packet Cat 35
Posts: 961
Re: Sealant to install toughened glass with no screws

I called Island Packet and they only use Silpruf. Spoke to the top rep in the country and states they've been using it on skyscrapers for 40 years. Huge windows, no fastenings.

My 1st attempt failed miserably. 2nd attempt I used 1/8" spacers (you buy these from the professional construction stores) and put those on so squeeze out is impossible. Then I put on a 3/8 double bead. Some of that bead squeezed out. Using a sponge, wet, takes care of that.
Cpt Mark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2020, 09:32   #7
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 2,738
Re: Sealant to install toughened glass with no screws

I recently asked similar question. This technical guide from Sika was helpful.

https://dnk.sika.com/dms/getdo...Bon...pplication.pdf

That said, I tried calling sika and was unable to contact the right person or department.

Good luck

Peter
__________________
_______________________________________
Cruising our 36-foot trawler from California to Florida
Join our Instagram page @MVWeebles to follow along
mvweebles is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2020, 11:20   #8
Registered User
 
Cadence's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: SC
Boat: None,build the one shown of glass, had many from 6' to 48'.
Posts: 10,208
Re: Sealant to install toughened glass with no screws

I would guess it is not what you use it is your prep digging out the old stuff.
Cadence is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2020, 11:58   #9
Registered User
 
Popeye46's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: BRISBANE
Boat: PERRY 43 PASSAGEMAKER
Posts: 76
Re: Sealant to install toughened glass with no screws

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cadence View Post
I would guess it is not what you use it is your prep digging out the old stuff.


Good point, that’s why I’d like to know the sealant used by the builder. My boat is a Perry 43 passagemaker built 2006 by Bryan Perry on the Gold Coast QLD. Fortunately I knew Bryan and would regularly ask him questions about the boat, he was a great guy and his boats are a credit to him. However he passed away last year so we lost an icon of the boating industry in Australia.
Popeye46 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2020, 12:01   #10
Registered User
 
Popeye46's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: BRISBANE
Boat: PERRY 43 PASSAGEMAKER
Posts: 76
Re: Sealant to install toughened glass with no screws

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpt Mark View Post
I called Island Packet and they only use Silpruf. Spoke to the top rep in the country and states they've been using it on skyscrapers for 40 years. Huge windows, no fastenings.

My 1st attempt failed miserably. 2nd attempt I used 1/8" spacers (you buy these from the professional construction stores) and put those on so squeeze out is impossible. Then I put on a 3/8 double bead. Some of that bead squeezed out. Using a sponge, wet, takes care of that.


Thanks for the info, by a wet sponge I take it you mean water.
Popeye46 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2020, 12:04   #11
Registered User
 
Popeye46's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: BRISBANE
Boat: PERRY 43 PASSAGEMAKER
Posts: 76
Re: Sealant to install toughened glass with no screws

Quote:
Originally Posted by atlroofman View Post
Use NP1 or OSI one part urithane structural sealant, 3/8 inch bead or larger.

Then forget about it for 20 years.


Pardon my ignorance but what is NP1 or OS1
Popeye46 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2020, 12:29   #12
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 351
Re: Sealant to install toughened glass with no screws

Dow 795
SalingSue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2020, 14:03   #13
Registered User
 
Cadence's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: SC
Boat: None,build the one shown of glass, had many from 6' to 48'.
Posts: 10,208
Re: Sealant to install toughened glass with no screws

Quote:
Originally Posted by a64pilot View Post
This, it’s used to adhere windows in skyscrapers, it’s extremely flexible, I mean extremely flexible.
https://sweets.construction.com/swts...448/254876.pdf
I've seen a glass panel on a commercial building replaced, about 8' x 12'. No mechanical fasteners. The above may be worth looking into. It amazed me.
It might be over kill?
Cadence is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2020, 15:19   #14
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 17
Re: Sealant to install toughened glass with no screws

We have a Perry 43 cat as well. I need to replace a window section on the port coachroof (1 toughened panel covers 2 window apertures) and also partly seal another window, like you.

The glass used is from G James at Eagle Farm, Brisbane. When we bought the boat, one of the conditions of sale was to replace a couple leaking hatches. Bryan and his boys used Fixtech (maybe #200).

There is a very good article in thecoastalpassage magazine (how to install boat windows and port lights) They recommend using Dow Corning #791, which may be a better product.

You may be interested in the new Perry Catamaran Owners Group which has just recently been set up on Facebook.

Cheers
Redfred1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2020, 16:11   #15
Registered User
 
Popeye46's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: BRISBANE
Boat: PERRY 43 PASSAGEMAKER
Posts: 76
Re: Sealant to install toughened glass with no screws

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfred1 View Post
We have a Perry 43 cat as well. I need to replace a window section on the port coachroof (1 toughened panel covers 2 window apertures) and also partly seal another window, like you.



The glass used is from G James at Eagle Farm, Brisbane. When we bought the boat, one of the conditions of sale was to replace a couple leaking hatches. Bryan and his boys used Fixtech (maybe #200).



There is a very good article in thecoastalpassage magazine (how to install boat windows and port lights) They recommend using Dow Corning #791, which may be a better product.



You may be interested in the new Perry Catamaran Owners Group which has just recently been set up on Facebook.



Cheers


I have a slight leak on the stb top aperture so I just want seal around the top of that aperture, however I am hesitant to use any sealant until I am sure it’s compatible with the existing sealant. I may have to look into a primer. Thanks for the tip about the Perry Cat facebook site.
Popeye46 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
crew, sealant


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Recommended sealant for glass-to-metal windshield CapnCrunch Construction, Maintenance & Refit 12 14-07-2019 15:49
Best Sealant for wind vane self steering install. ErBrown Construction, Maintenance & Refit 8 02-02-2017 11:39
Recommended Sealant/Adhesive for Installing Glass Windows sailjumanji Construction, Maintenance & Refit 31 22-08-2015 10:59
New Strata Glass - Clear like real glass! Hermanns Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting 1 08-04-2013 18:25
Negatives of using stainless screws. Alan Wheeler Construction, Maintenance & Refit 4 17-04-2005 23:22

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:48.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.