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Old 29-07-2013, 17:50   #1
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SAnchor swivel Turns to Wrong Position

Hello,

We have an anchor swivel on our bruce. When we raise the anchor it always wants to swivel sideways and refuse to be pulled up into the roller and guide. I don't know much about anchor swivels but they seem to be pretty simple devices. Any hints on adjustments we can make to get the anchor to run true?

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Old 29-07-2013, 18:08   #2
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Re: Anchor swivel turns to wrong position

your swivel is an extraneous bit of metal .
i do not use one.
the swing of your boat on anchor is going to tewist chain with and without that swivel.
when i raise anchor i take that time to untwist the chain and to inspect my chain and clean it as it is raised onto my deck and into the deck hole for the chain locker.
i was anchored by one fluke of bruce in zihuatenejo for 2 months, very securely and comfortably--the rocks helped keep anchored well. we turned 360 every day with tide changes and winds....
there will be twist, and anchor and chain need minding while being raised. might as well inspect and clean that chain.
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Old 29-07-2013, 18:19   #3
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Re: Anchor swivel turns to wrong position

A friend who owns a Rocna (no, seriously), had the same problem. He called the manufacturers and was told that their products should not have a swivel. He threw the swivel away and never had the problem again.

That said, our Bruce with swivel works well and the swivel itself helps us keep the chain un-twisted. We do what Zee, above, describes.
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Dump the swivel...
Cabo Rico's are to nice to risk on a needless bit of metal...
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Old 29-07-2013, 18:23   #5
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Re: Anchor swivel turns to wrong position

I'm with Zee. I installed a swivel a few years ago after going with all-chain road and encountering twisted chain. After a few years of seasonal usage I've seen no noticeable improvement in the twist in my chain. I still need to untwist it as I haul it in. I'm removing the swivel.

Your issue may having little to do with the swivel Zboss. Our Rocna does the same thing. Sometimes it hits the roller kinda askew, and won't slide in properly. A second attempt usually clears the problem, or sometimes I use a boat hook to rotate the anchor into position.

In our case, the swivel does nothing to help, or hinder. It's "an extraneous bit of metal."
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Get the ultra swivel.
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Old 29-07-2013, 22:08   #7
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Get the ultra swivel.
Agree, no chain twist, allows the anchor to set quick and always without fail orientates the anchor the appropriate way as it snugs to the roller which is extremely important with a catamarans VULNERABLE aluminium forebeam.

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Re: Anchor swivel turns to wrong position

Remove the swivel.

If it works better Deep 6 it.
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No problems with the Ultra Swivel, It'll turn the anchor the correct way. Very well-make and heavy duty.
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Remove the swivel.

If it works better Deep 6 it.
That seems like a reasonable course of action.
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Re: SAnchor swivel Turns to Wrong Position

You can always use the swivel as a fishing weight.
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Re: SAnchor swivel Turns to Wrong Position

remove swivel and use for purely decorative things.
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Re: SAnchor swivel Turns to Wrong Position

Had stainless swivel on my spade for 5 years and while trying to set it with the motors, the swivel broke and lost the anchor. Seems the center pin, which was not viewable, rusted and gave way. Would advise against them unless they can easily be inspected. Think I saw one at WM that comes apart and can be inspected.
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Most swivels are THE WEAK LINK unless the pin is larger than the chain itself and then they become the hang up going into most rollers. Get rid of it!
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