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Old 28-07-2015, 06:22   #316
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Re: Why Do Catamarans Motor Nearly 100%

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How does your boat handle heading directly into force 8? Sustained 35-40 knots, 15-18 foot choppy seas. When I get to a wifi spot, maybe I can download a video of the encounter we had, wet on the outside, dry on the inside, no worries about safety and my wife casually reading a book in the cockpit up until she gets doused by a wave. That part will need to be edited due to the language content. :-)
Like I said, you found validation for your choice of boat. Be happy and don't worry about other people's choices, nor seek further validation from them.

Maybe focus on perceived short-comings of smaller and larger Oysters from yours? That may help further narrow things for you.

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Old 28-07-2015, 06:25   #317
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That would make for a nice video. Good time to get out the GoPro!
That's what I thought too, so I shot a few minutes. It's really kinda boring, it never really looks like when your actually there. The waves never look as big and choppy. I think it has to do with your head acting like a gimbal for the camera and nothing familiar for the observer to compare size.
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Like I said, you found validation for your choice of boat. Be happy and don't worry about other people's choices, nor seek further validation from them.

Maybe focus on perceived short-comings of smaller and larger Oysters from yours? That may help further narrow things for you.

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In other words... You don't know, because you haven't been there. You just prefer taking personal shots to stir up the pot.

Please continue to feel free to make a positive contribution to the thread. :-)
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In other words... You don't know, because you haven't been there. You just like taking shots to stir up the pot.

Please continue to feel free to make a positive contribution to the thread. :-)
In other words, you don't know what it is like to be in those conditions on a catamaran or coastal cruiser to compare with. You just like stating how you perceive the comparison to stir up the pot.

Please continue to feel free to make things up and state cherry-picked examples as facts.

BTW, I was attempting to contribute positively by helping you understand that your choice of boat is validated with you, and you should be happy with that. It is polite to not seek further validation from attempting to belittle the choices and preferences of others. Particularly if you are uninformed and lack experience/expertise.

Which is exactly how you come across, if you read the responses to your thread with an open mind.

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That's what I thought too, so I shot a few minutes. It's really kinda boring, it never really looks like when your actually there. The waves never look as big and choppy. I think it has to do with your head acting like a gimbal for the camera and nothing familiar for the observer to compare size.
I understand.

But, I think that sailors who have "been there" or sensed those same feelings, will get it.

The video does not have to look like a "Roaring 40s Race on a Volvo 60" to be interesting to see.
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I'll try to download a couple during this next week.
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In other words, you don't know what it is like to be in those conditions on a catamaran or coastal cruiser to compare with. You just like stating how you perceive the comparison to stir up the pot.

Please continue to feel free to make things up and state cherry-picked examples as facts.

BTW, I was attempting to contribute positively by helping you understand that your choice of boat is validated with you, and you should be happy with that. It is polite to not seek further validation from attempting to belittle the choices and preferences of others. Particularly if you are uninformed and lack experience/expertise.

Which is exactly how you come across, if you read the responses to your thread with an open mind.

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thanks for the psychological annalysis..
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Re: Why Do Catamarans Motor Nearly 100%

Gosh!

World war 3 started. My intent was to put a little personal experience and then get others to comment regarding their experience in a blow whilst piloting a CAt.

Seems that I got my wish.

No one wants to head into bad weather. Except for my pal Mike who loves it but he has a weird streak-I digress. The question was regarding the lack of experience of sailing a CAT when caught out, and whether it is worse or better than experienced in a mono. The confines of speculation needed to be opened into CF experience.

I have never sailed an Oyster. Im sure its a fine boat from all accounts. I have sailed Catamarans and large motor vessels and small and large sailing monos and each behaves differently in certain seaways. Most certainly there are motions that I dont care for on a Cat, but to say that I would not want to be on one during the episode described above, uncomfortable as it was, is not true from my experience.

Actually, I would not willingly be on one but I would have no worries if it happened to me and I was caught out as Ken was.

It is my hope that we can just present facts and accept the differences and strengths and weaknesses of VESSELS as opposed to blanket statements that do not describe the reality.

I tell you this much, if a cat was not able to handle what Ken experienced then no one should buy a Cat...
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Re: Why Do Catamarans Motor Nearly 100%

Let's begin again.

Can anyone share foul weather experiences on catamarans? How do they handle under power or sail?

Spiv wrote an informed post at little earlier... How about another?
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thanks for the psychological annalysis..
You're welcome - I hope it helped.

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You're welcome - I hope it helped.

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It definitely helped keep this thread at the top of the board. :-)

Now let me ask again... Can you contribute any, and I mean any personal experiences on how a catamaran will handle Force 8? My inquiring, psychologically deficient mind wants to know.

Please enlighten us all. Personally, I just can't figure out how a rectangular object with significant windage can punch holes through waves and wind better than a pointed object. Please tell us?
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This isn't directed at anyone in particular, but lets not forget the be nice rule please
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This isn't directed at anyone in particular, but lets not forget the be nice rule please
Yeah folks!

I have been enjoying this thread because it does bring out different experiences, and those are interesting to read.

Just don't let differences of opinion and sharp analysis get personal.

I fully expect that different people have different opinion and experiences too. It is the experiences that we should all be able to hear about.
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It definitely helped keep this thread at the top of the board. :-)

Now let me ask again... Can you contribute any, and I mean any personal experiences on how a catamaran will handle Force 8? My inquiring, psychologically deficient mind wants to know.

Please enlighten us all. Personally, I just can't figure out how a rectangular object with significant windage can punch holes through waves and wind better than a pointed object. Please tell us?
It is pointed. 2 sharp hulls balanced over a width.
Windage is assuaged via sail involvement.
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