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Old 04-03-2009, 06:45   #1
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Couple's Dream Crushed in Strait

I realize this is home-built and an apparently unconventional design. No commentary on cats in general, just FYI:

Couple's dream crushed in Strait (+video) | Stuff.co.nz
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Old 04-03-2009, 06:49   #2
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Well, No comment here on their construction, seamanship or where they put that $40,000...but I got a really great quote out of the article: "First thing I did [when safe on board] was ask for a beer."
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Old 04-03-2009, 07:23   #3
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Well, that is sad. I wonder if it was designed by them, or a Naval Architect?

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Old 04-03-2009, 07:55   #4
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On the bright side. They said the boat was salvagable. There's an opportunity for someone to get into a multi at a cheap price!!!


woo hoo..just got my first gold star!!!...lol
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Old 04-03-2009, 08:01   #5
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Kinda looks like a Warren- but cant be sure
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Could that be a James Wharram Tiki 31? It looks as if he just lost the bindings on the cross beams.
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Old 04-03-2009, 09:46   #7
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They commented that the "Douglas Fir" cross beam snapped. I am not sure what Wharram calls for in their build sheet, but that could have been the issue. Or not. Sad to know it is salvagable, but they don't have the money to save it. I can only imagine. As for the insurance, That just ticks me off, if their comments are accurate. Of course, there were likely other factors, such as the fact that the boat was home built.
Ah well, appreciate their attitude, and sad for them.
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Sad--Im not a Ships carpenter but Im not sure on using Douglas Fir for the cross beams, ?
Anyone know what wood Warren specs for this?
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Not sure what the cross beanm is on the Tiki, but sure I would have used a glue lam beam. I also wonder if it was the lashings rather than the beam itself.

As for the comment on the insurance, this incident is certainly not going to help.
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As for the comment on the insurance, this incident is certainly not going to help.
Talbot I agree with you, and I think the quote on not being able to get insurance is absolute crap and probably told by some misinformed uneducated monohull sailor, I am not suggesting all monohull sailors are misinformed or uneducated , but there are still a few out there that are, this I think is just an excuse as to why she was uninsured.

I have had 2 quotes recently, one was for a 40ft Cat brand new worth £250,000.00 and I was quoted £945.00 per annum on a swinging mooring with a £300.00 excess (I think), both quotes I got within 24 hours - no problem.
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There may be a bit more to it than that, as the incident took place in NZ, and I have noticed a tendency for Kiwis to consider that nobody else has bad weather as bad as they do - There may be a few people in Ecuador who might not agree.

David Lewis would certainly not agree, and he went through the Magellen Straits in his early Prout catamaran in 1960 with his family onboard.

I suspect it is more probable that they refused to insure until he had had a survey, and from the sounds of it, they did not have the funds for one.

a Wharram Tiki is a good seaworthy boat, but like any other can easily be overpressed. That is when any weakness in build or materials will reveal itself.
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David Lewis would certainly not agree, and he went through the Magellen Straits in his early Prout catamaran in 1960 with his family onboard.
Am I also not right in saying that a little Heavenly Twins 26 has done a full circumnavigation in 1980, Quote - A 53-year-old Canadian, Alan Butler, in his 26 foot Heavenly Twins catamaran Amon-Re, has recently finished a complete Circumnavigation of the world, singlehanded. This makes the Heavenly Twins, according to to D.H. (Nobby) Clarke, official yachting compiler for the Guinness Book of Records, the smallest catamaran ever to complete a true circumnavigation.

Also several others have survived serious unavoidable storm/hurricane situations, I bet they would get insurance.

As Talbot says maybe they could not afford a survey to get the insurance.
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Talbot I agree with you, and I think the quote on not being able to get insurance is absolute crap and probably told by some misinformed uneducated monohull sailor, I am not suggesting all monohull sailors are misinformed or uneducated , but there are still a few out there that are, this I think is just an excuse as to why she was uninsured.

I have had 2 quotes recently, one was for a 40ft Cat brand new worth £250,000.00 and I was quoted £945.00 per annum on a swinging mooring with a £300.00 excess (I think), both quotes I got within 24 hours - no problem.
tell me who the new boat quote was from as that beet my inshurance by £500
dam have only just renewed it last week will get a quote for next year.
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Of course it's always possible they did get a survey, and THAT is why nobody would insure them...
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Insurance companies have gotten a little breathless lately, particularly for home-built boats. The insure-or-not debate is an established battleground for indellible opinions. Stand by Hud! (I hope you've noted the recent weather in the Chesapeake.)
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