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Old 29-08-2016, 13:50   #31
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Re: Which is the most seaworthy sailboat model you can think of?

That question is like asking how long is a piece of string.

As an engineer working to define your requirements I would be looking to understand your use cases, edge cases, requirements, functionality, budget, etc.

All this information would then be summarized in a trade study (if looking at buying a vessel) or a concept design ( if building a new or one off vessel).

Your question titled 'the best sailboat to survive a hurricane' would be covered in the survivability non functional requirement. This is not a functional requirement so would never be a primary driver for decision making. From a systems perspective we might also consider degraded states. The process can become quite tedious.

Eventually I would guide you through a trade off study where we would eventually make a decision on what to buy or build. Think of this as a decision tree where each characteristic, requirement, function, utility, etc would be prioritized or traded off against each other. We would also consider all the other 'ilities' like maintainability, durability, etc and non functional requirements like performance, color, features, etc.

Again survivability would not likely be the key decision driver. If it is then your ultimate choice may be not to buy a boat.

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Old 29-08-2016, 14:07   #32
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Re: Which is the most seaworthy sailboat model you can think of?

Anything over 100' seaworthy? Look up the Nadine 1996 She was about 170 feet. Lost between Italy and Sardinia, reportedly after a forward deck hatch broke.
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Old 29-08-2016, 14:15   #33
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Re: Which is the most seaworthy sailboat model you can think of?

In summary, LeftBrainStuff is telling you that every boat is a bunch of compromises, and if all your decisions are for seaworthiness, maybe you don't want a boat.
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Old 29-08-2016, 14:18   #34
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Re: Which is the most seaworthy sailboat model you can think of?

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Look at a submarine. Once you're about 40ft down the storms won't bother you much.
Right idea but not quite.

I spent seven years in nuclear submarines.

Periscope depth was 60 feet so at 40 feet the sail would be broached.

We once took a 40 degree roll at 200 feet in the Med while coming to PD. It was nasty up there. We quickly cancelled that idea.

Depending on the weather, 300-500 feet was like being at home unless we were maneuvering.
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Old 29-08-2016, 14:18   #35
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Re: Which is the most seaworthy sailboat model you can think of?

Notice how when big boats sink they all hop into little boats..
Just sayin thats all..
Probably better off in a Foiling moth if out playing in a hurricane..
Get someone to duct tape you to the hull of the moth and start praying to Poseidon.
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Re: Which is the most seaworthy sailboat model you can think of?

No one has said Hunter?
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Right idea but not quite.

I spent seven years in nuclear submarines.

Periscope depth was 60 feet so at 40 feet the sail would be broached.

We once took a 40 degree roll at 200 feet in the Med while coming to PD. It was nasty up there. We quickly cancelled that idea.

Depending on the weather, 300-500 feet was like being at home unless we were maneuvering.
Bloody boomers 😉
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Old 29-08-2016, 15:05   #38
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Re: Which is the most seaworthy sailboat model you can think of?

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Notice how when big boats sink they all hop into little boats..
Just sayin thats all.

I like this, it's pretty profound


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Old 29-08-2016, 20:32   #39
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Re: Which is the most seaworthy sailboat model you can think of?

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Notice how when big boats sink they all hop into little boats..
Just sayin thats all..
Yeah, but then what do they do? They hope to survive long enough for another BIG boat to come rescue them, that's what!

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Old 29-08-2016, 20:58   #40
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Re: Which is the most seaworthy sailboat model you can think of?

I think he's looking for a cork. Never found one of those on the bottom.
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Re: Which is the most seaworthy sailboat model you can think of?

How about a cutter rigged Cape Dory 36 ? Very sturdy boat, strongly built, full integrated keel, not very fast but very nice comfort rating and heaves to very well. Cockpit is small, no room to lounge around topside and the inside is big enough for two comfortably. It's built to be out on open water passage making not island hopping.
Plus it's an attractive boat and everyone likes to look at it when you make port.
And yes, that's my boat so i'm a little biased.
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Re: Which is the most seaworthy sailboat model you can think of?

My bet is an Ingrid 38.. Owned one for over 20 years and she saw me through some really bad blows in Alaska and Sea of Cortez, MX. Wonderful cruiser, great short handed sailer, safe dry and very sea worthy. She has a long enough water line that hobbie horsing is pretty well eliminated. I've sailed and delivered well over 60 different vessels and the W. Aitkins designed Ingrid has my vote. Phil
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Re: Which is the most seaworthy sailboat model you can think of?

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Right idea but not quite.

I spent seven years in nuclear submarines.

Periscope depth was 60 feet so at 40 feet the sail would be broached.

We once took a 40 degree roll at 200 feet in the Med while coming to PD. It was nasty up there. We quickly cancelled that idea.

Depending on the weather, 300-500 feet was like being at home unless we were maneuvering.
Thanks for adding your comments to the discussion. I found them interesting, particularly the roll effected by surface weather.
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Re: Which is the most seaworthy sailboat model you can think of?

This boat does it for me. http://nordkyndesign.com/nordkyn/

Id like a proper dodger or a small pilothouse, but aside from this she looks perfect. Fast, easy to handle and strong.



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Re: Which is the most seaworthy sailboat model you can think of?

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Notice how when big boats sink they all hop into little boats..
Just sayin thats all..
Probably better off in a Foiling moth if out playing in a hurricane..
Get someone to duct tape you to the hull of the moth and start praying to Poseidon.
They'd more likely prefer to hop into a larger boat if they could have placed on onboard. Lifeboats are far less seaworthy than the mothership, they are nothing better than one last chance.

It would be like considering your tender to be more seaworthy than your boat.
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