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Old 08-08-2010, 15:54   #121
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Old 08-08-2010, 17:11   #122
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I must say that I am impressed!!! Some great responses.

Do you know if the Squid is for Sale????? And, although I like the Perini, I don't think my wife and I could handle her............. Well, maybe my wife could.

Actually, this is great to hear what you respondents came back with. I have been leaning hard towards the HR and I love the Island Packet and Cambria. Reality and price dictate a 5-6 year-old HR 46 or 48 though, but I have several questions about them: 1) The quality of the boat and the customer service of Hallberg Rassey are said to be lacking in the last number of years. 2) I always have a fear of cored hulls below the waterline, even closed-cell foam. 3) The rudder is laminated to the rudder post below the waterline and that tends to lead toward delamination over a period of time. 4) And, is the stability as good as a heavy displacement modified full keel? 5) The mast of the HR is stepped on the deck.

I realize there is no perfect blue water vessel, but one can try.
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Old 08-08-2010, 21:24   #123
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I got lost with your reply about Chicken. Not sure what you are referring to.
Buy my Idylle 15.5 posted in Yachtworld and you will be more than satisfied with the German Frers design. Google Cayenne III. My wife and I cruised that boat for 12 years and were never in any danger, etc.
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Old 08-08-2010, 21:31   #124
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That's not Squid, this is squid. But I love that boat and what they have done with it, cruising over 10,000 miles in a 15 fter!!!!!

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Old 09-08-2010, 03:33   #125
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I got lost with your reply about Chicken. Not sure what you are referring to.
Buy my Idylle 15.5 posted in Yachtworld and you will be more than satisfied with the German Frers design. Google Cayenne III. My wife and I cruised that boat for 12 years and were never in any danger, etc.
Prior to my taunt of "Chicken", no one seemed to be bold enough to commit to a recommendation of a "best boat". Truely, the best blue water cruiser is a matter of opinion, but I was looking for replies just like yours.
Thank you.
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Old 09-08-2010, 04:48   #126
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Prior to my taunt of "Chicken", no one seemed to be bold enough to commit to a recommendation of a "best boat". Truely, the best blue water cruiser is a matter of opinion, but I was looking for replies just like yours.
Thank you.
So, what's your vote/opinion? Time to make a contribution ...
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Old 09-08-2010, 06:53   #127
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So, what's your vote/opinion? Time to make a contribution ...
As per my previous post:
"I have been leaning hard towards the HR and I love the Island Packet and Cambria. Reality and price dictate a 5-6 year-old HR 46 or 48 though, but I have several questions about them: 1) The quality of the boat and the customer service of Hallberg Rassey are said to be lacking in the last number of years. 2) I always have a fear of cored hulls below the waterline, even closed-cell foam. 3) The rudder is laminated to the rudder post below the waterline and that tends to lead toward delamination over a period of time. 4) And, is the stability as good as a heavy displacement modified full keel? 5) The mast of the HR is stepped on the deck.

I realize there is no perfect blue water vessel, but one can try".
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As per my previous post:
"I have been leaning hard towards the HR and I love the Island Packet and Cambria. Reality and price dictate a 5-6 year-old HR 46 or 48 though, but I have several questions about them: 1) The quality of the boat and the customer service of Hallberg Rassey are said to be lacking in the last number of years. 2) I always have a fear of cored hulls below the waterline, even closed-cell foam. 3) The rudder is laminated to the rudder post below the waterline and that tends to lead toward delamination over a period of time. 4) And, is the stability as good as a heavy displacement modified full keel? 5) The mast of the HR is stepped on the deck.

I realize there is no perfect blue water vessel, but one can try".
Ooops, guess I missed that.

Nice picks ... except for the IP. Sorry, but I just can't stand that beige color.
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Old 09-08-2010, 07:20   #129
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Ooops, guess I missed that.

Nice picks ... except for the IP. Sorry, but I just can't stand that beige color.
Yeah, that beige is kinda limp. In addition to the price, which I'm sure is justified by the quality, beige is a minor disqualifier. You know, I should have added Mason. Great boat if one can find a well maintained one. And the price is more attractive than the HR.
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I love the lines of a Vagabond and I like the looks and easy sail plan of a ketch. I'd have one if I thought I could sell it down the line.
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I am currently boatlless in AZ, am seriously looking at the Catalina 36. Coastal cruiser, sure. I am not so sure how far from coastal I will ever get anyway. Why is it, that from what I hear and read, no matter where you go, far to sea, you will always find a Catalina 36 or two sharing your anchorage? They seem to hold their value well and are unquestionably the roomiest 36 ever made and easily sailed by a crew of two or singlehanded. For all the Catalina bashers out there, Frank Butler and Catalina Yachts is still in business and has sold more boats than any builder.
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[QUOTE=larryb;508176]I am currently boatlless in AZ, am seriously looking at the Catalina 36. Coastal cruiser, sure. I am not so sure how far from coastal I will ever get anyway. Why is it, that from what I hear and read, no matter where you go, far to sea, you will always find a Catalina 36 or two sharing your anchorage? They seem to hold their value well and are unquestionably the roomiest 36 ever made and easily sailed by a crew of two or singlehanded. For all the Catalina bashers out there, Frank Butler and Catalina Yachts is still in business and has sold more boats than any
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I believe that everything is relative: As long as it floats, doesn't break often and doesn't require vast amounts of time for maintenance, any boat will work. That being said, I don't think I would venture very far offshore in most of the current "roomy" boats being produced today. Most of them are designed for comfort in the slip and well appointed for entertainment. At sea, "roomy" equates to being thrown all over the cabin in bad weather. It's all in what you want.
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