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24-08-2010, 10:41
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 102
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Perfect Blue Water Boat
You're correct. There is no perfect blue water boat, but I think we all know what is not a blue water boat. Many of them grace the pages of our favorite sailing magazines. What really chaps me is that some of them are getting rave reviews by the magazines even though the reviewers should be having a hard time sleeping at night. I'd like to see more honesty through use of adjectives like "floating bathtub", "floating condominium", "great at the dock", etc.
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24-08-2010, 12:12
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#137
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: San Francisco Bay
Boat: Fantasia 35
Posts: 1,226
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I don't know which boat is the "best blue water cruising sailboat" simply because I have not cruised in every blue water boat out there. Although I know my Fantasia is nowhere near being the "bust blue water cruising sailboat" I love her anyway. However, if I was looking for another boat I would start with the Hans Christian, then a mid sized Pacific Seacraft, and finally the larger Baba.
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24-08-2010, 13:10
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#138
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Depends
Boat: SB 43' Cutter
Posts: 746
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Davie J.
You're correct. There is no perfect blue water boat, but I think we all know what is not a blue water boat. Many of them grace the pages of our favorite sailing magazines. What really chaps me is that some of them are getting rave reviews by the magazines even though the reviewers should be having a hard time sleeping at night. I'd like to see more honesty through use of adjectives like "floating bathtub", "floating condominium", "great at the dock", etc.
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Very true of course. All of the sailing magazines, with the exception of Practical Sailor, are bought and paid for. You can always look at the Cruising World "Boat of the Year" awards and see that they correspond to advertising dollars. And you can see the current reputation of new Tartan quality and customer service has never been even mentioned in current reviews in the major magazines, because they are a big advertiser. They have to tread on thin ice to keep the business model working.
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24-08-2010, 15:18
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#139
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep

Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 18,897
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the best ever in life blue water sailboat is that in which you most enjoy cruising. is subjective, not an objective question, subject to each and every single opinion in this world and all others as well--each of us has an opinion regarding this topic, and each will be different. so, the correct answer is...ta daaaa---that boat in which you most enjoy cruising.
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25-08-2010, 16:46
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#140
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 9
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Any comments on the Moody 42 late 1980's vintage?
Kent
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26-08-2010, 04:49
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#141
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 102
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Best Blue Water Boat
Moodys have a great name, but I don't know much about them. I'd like to hear tho'.
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26-08-2010, 06:55
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#142
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Budapest
Boat: orion 50
Posts: 205
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orion 50 tashing
Tashing at its peak produced for Gary Mull the ORION 50 using a 58 racing hull as base taking 8 foot off the aft deck which was 'just sticking out'.
She is fast for her weight; 36600 lbs but very stable as typical ketch.
centercockpit is low / safe and her lines for a cc are unmistakably sexy; hard to realize she is cc from a distance.
Her quality is truly amazing inside and hull has a encapsuled keel with 30% below the waterline.
Big engine working place as are her deck layout; a true cruiser which makes me smile when big sloops are trying to 'race' us
Unfortunately only 8 produced due to the death of Gary Mull; as a result Tashing started producing their own cc /touring yachts = Taswells also premium but not as fast........
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26-08-2010, 07:29
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#143
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 102
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Best Blue Water Boat
Hey Xpets, That Orion is a sweet looking boat!! When were they made and are all 8 in service? At the risk of being nosy, what kind of ticket is on a boat like that?
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26-08-2010, 12:00
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#144
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Budapest
Boat: orion 50
Posts: 205
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thanks; good looks he
as for ticket she is hugly undervalued due to fact 'brand' is not known alike Oyster etc..........half their price and much better built.
*i was 5 years in boatbuilding so am entiteld to an opinion
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26-08-2010, 12:03
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#145
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Budapest
Boat: orion 50
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Moody is a nice /simple built boat with nothing bad about her but nothing exiting either........my opinion for what it is worth.
sailing aliblity avarage but price (far too ) high due to branding and British heritage.
when you can afford her; good for you.
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I can't change the direction of the wind, but I can adjust my sails to always reach my destination. (Jimmy Dean)
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26-08-2010, 12:07
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#146
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Budapest
Boat: orion 50
Posts: 205
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buy an Orion 50 , see yachtworld for details.......not mine but far better yacht for far less money
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I can't change the direction of the wind, but I can adjust my sails to always reach my destination. (Jimmy Dean)
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19-09-2010, 07:13
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#147
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 30
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Any thoughts on a cutter rigged Roberts 58?
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20-09-2010, 21:33
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#148
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sausalito, CA
Boat: Ron Holland 43
Posts: 5
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Offshore Cruising Boat
A Ron Holland 43 is my choice. Like the Orion 50, few were made (13) but all were built to order on a semi custom basis. Ours is hull number 11 and a sweeter boat I could not have imagined.
The Sailing Vessel Wren - Ron Holland 43
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20-09-2010, 22:37
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#149
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: La Ciudad de la Misión Didacus de Alcalá en Alta California, Virreinato de Nueva España
Boat: Cal 20
Posts: 13,375
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For a family: Cal40.
Excellent sea-berths for 4, nice wide side decks, good light air performance, moderate amount of liner, plenty of room for stuff, well behaved in rough conditions, affordable, plenty to be had.
For a couple: Cal34
Good sea-berths for 2, good light air performance, moderate amount of liner, plenty of room for stuff, well behaved in rough conditions, affordable, plenty to be had.
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A house is but a boat so poorly built and so firmly run aground no one would think to try and refloat it.
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26-09-2010, 08:22
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#150
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1
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Bowman 46
I must vote for the Bowman 46 as she delivered me safely across the Atlantic. Though I suppose the Deerfoot's make incredible cruisers.
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