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Old 13-11-2016, 09:31   #61
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So much of this particular race is attrition - if I were a betting man I would not put money on the untested foils. The advantages they have is great, but one foil failing or hitting a submerged object and the lead is gone...
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Are the foil designs made to only sail using the foils? Or are they just an additional benefit? If one breaks, would it go back to be like sailing a regular design Open 60? They still have the canting keel.
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Losing a foil dramatically reduces lateral resistance for the tack it would have been deployed on. Still sailable off the wind but the boat would suffer on anything else. Since these beast generate so much apparent wind they spend most of their time with the wind forward of the beam. Losing a foil is death.
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If you are looking for a better Tracker.. look at this one, many more options then the official VG-2016 site.

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So much of this particular race is attrition - if I were a betting man I would not put money on the untested foils. The advantages they have is great, but one foil failing or hitting a submerged object and the lead is gone...
The foils with the older design will break too it they hit a submerged object. The difference is that on the new ones the forces are much bigger, on the foils and on the insertion point on the hull and there was cases were they had broke or the hull broke without having hit anything. They have learned and reinforced the hulls and the foils but nobody knows if they can take a circumnavigation.
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If you are looking for a better Tracker.. look at this one, many more options then the official VG-2016 site.

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How!!!! Thanks for that. I actually use windyty for weather information but I did not knew they had a tracker. So much better on wind information!
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Yes, it would be great if Windy-Tv features and predictions could be overlaid
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... seems 'a user' in Estonia created the site: http://gis.ee/vg

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If you are using this tracker, on the bottom go to the red Button and bring it back and will see what happened.
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In fact it can have happened two things, Armel passed too close to the Island, lost wind and had to sail west looking for more wind or Armel is positioning himself better regarding the low winds ahead (more probably) and in that case the ones that played right were Riou and Josse that were already on a better position.

Alex passed between the relatively narrow channel between two Islands and that had give him more wind pressure and we went like a rocket but he have to change direction now and go west otherwise it will stay in weaker winds.

For me the winners in strategy on this play were Josse an Riou that recovered a lot to Armel. Alex won even more but just to lose it all on the next hours, if I am right.
It seems it is happening what I predicted two days ago. I still think that the best positioned for the doldrums are Josse and Riou and they are going even more to the west now. Alex is losing speed and if the wind information is correct his problems will be bigger on the next hours.

On this tracker we can see better the wind ahead:

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When you click on area's without Meteo info it will be added, don't forget to click on "NOW" to refresh the info.
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I wonder how many records will be broken this year?

The Boss looks like he will pass the Doldrums a day quicker.
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I wonder how many records will be broken this year?

The Boss looks like he will pass the Doldrums a day quicker.
AT is definitely pushing it hard - I also love that he's willing to take the route not taken and explore advantages, especially considering he's got the newest probably fastest foiling boat - if he was a conservative sailor he would just match the fleet and win if he avoided attrition issues.
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Tanguy De Lamotte is heading home. He says he is going to sail home alone from the Cape Verde Islands and is not withdrawing. The damage to his mast is just to much to repair. I'm not sure about the "not withdrawing" but he is a hero and I will miss him in the race. Very colorful and he is raising money for a wonderful cause.

Alex Thomson has crossed the equator setting a new reference time of 9 days 7 hours and 3 minutes from Le Sables d'OLonne.
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