How to Supply Clean Freshwater ? What Do You Use ?

[MarkJ]

Originally Posted by Saucy Sailoress

Every time hubby sees it, he uses it as ammo in our argument, !

What argument?
Oooooohhhhhh Does he want you to buy him a water maker so he can have half hour showers????

Men are so transperent!



Are you afraid of catching a small squid in the tea cups? (below: thats a normal size glass and the blue lines are the lines on a sheet of paper underneith the glass. So the little fella is just a few mm's long and very cute!)

[captainKJ]

Originally Posted by MarkJ

What argument?
Oooooohhhhhh Does he want you to buy him a water maker so he can have half hour showers????

Men are so transperent!



Are you afraid of catching a small squid in the tea cups?

get the wasabi and soy sauce,,, i'll be right there with the sake

[rebel heart]

Originally Posted by Saucy Sailoress

Stop it with cr@p like this - NO-ONE is to EVER to talk about saltwater in the galley sinks again. Every time hubby sees it, he uses it as ammo in our argument, and we are NOT having saltwater in our sinks!

We have two foot pumps in the galley, one that pumps fresh to the freshwater facet and one that pumps seawater to the seawater facet. I'd say 75% of the water that gets used for dishes is seawater. Works terrific for blasting garbage off plates and the majority of scrubbing. Once it's clean you rinse it in freshwater but the rinse is a fraction of the amount of water needed to clean.

Mark, I like the spray bottle idea for freshwater usage. That would really cut down on usage I bet.

[daddle]

Saucy: Sea water in the galley sink. There ya go

Also seawater bathing with a freshwater rinse. In 10 months of cruising I've filled up a marinas a couple of times. Lugged water in the dink once. Collected rainwater whenever I could manage.

Haven't un-pickled the watermaker yet this year. Considering deleting it from the inventory. 440 liters in the tanks easily lasts a month.

Rainwater is by far the best. But here in Borneo one must be ready for it. It comes all at once without much warning.

[MarkJ]

Originally Posted by rebel heart

Mark, I like the spray bottle idea for freshwater usage. That would really cut down on usage I bet.

Eric, you wouldn't believe how much water is saved.




Mark

[chadlaroche]

Im gonna kick myself later for this but its just not in the budget , south florida $2300 katadyn 40 .maybe someone on here can use it and i can bum a jerry can or 2 at anchor ????

watermaker

[denverd0n]

Originally Posted by capt_douglas

...cruisers add a cup of bleach to the fresh water tank when they fill.

A cup!?! That is a LOT of bleach, unless you have REALLY big tanks!

The CDC says that you should use 1/8th of a teaspoon of bleach per gallon of water for sanitizing. A cup would be enough to sanitize 384 gallons of water. For more "normal" size water tanks (say, 100 gallons) 1/4th of a cup is plenty. If the water is cloudy you should double that.

Just for reference, there are 3 teaspoons in a tablespoon, and 16 tablespoons in a cup.

[MarkJ]

I was told for bleach one 30 mil measure (a spirit measure) per 1,000 litres

[Hud3]

Just don't be putting bleach in aluminum tanks!

[Roaring Girl]

Well we have about 750 litres in water tanks plus 4x 20l jerrys. We don't pay for water or go into marinas specially - in 4 years in the Med we've paid for 40l once! (And that was a domestic hygiene emergency!)

It gets filtered from the dock to the tank and from the tank to the tap. We've changed the filter once and are about to change again (Malta is a good place to buy filters because almost all the water is created by reverse osmosis and then it sits in rusty pipes, so good filters are cheap and ubiquitous.) We put a little biocide in during the summer, and we empty the tanks if we're going away for a long period.

We don't mind carrying water as it's a free bit of exercise and so we take a jerry can ashore if one is empty on every run.

A water maker seems like just another thing to break down - we've lost track of teh number of cruisers whose lives are dominated by the things!

[Tellie]

Originally Posted by chadlaroche

Im gonna kick myself later for this but its just not in the budget , south florida $2300 katadyn 40 .maybe someone on here can use it and i can bum a jerry can or 2 at anchor ????

watermaker

Not quite sure if you thought of buying this or are selling it. If you were thinking of buying you shouldn't worry about kicking yourself later. I like Katadyns, they are good units for what they are, but this is a very small unit and used. If you bought it now you might be kicking yourself later because you're not happy with the all around costs verses output. You'll always be able to find used Katadyns in this price range on even their larger units. If you are selling it never mind the above and I send you good vibes to help sell it.

[CarlF]

I've heard many different opinions about what amount of bleach to put in water. The higher concentrations are usually designed for disinfecting water or tanks that are known bad. I assume a much lower level can be used to deal with water that is essentially clean.

I read that municipal water in the US has .5-1.0 ppm chlorine. If I'm doing my math right, 2 teaspoons (10 mil) of 5% household bleach per 100 gallons would be over 1ppm. That seems awfully little but lines up pretty close to Markj's number. Can you even smell chlorine at that level?

I also read that chlorine dissipates in about 24 hours when exposed to air (as in a vented tank). Does that seem right? Is something nasty left behind?

Carl

[denverd0n]

Originally Posted by MarkJ

I was told for bleach one 30 mil measure (a spirit measure) per 1,000 litres

According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (the authority that I referenced above) that would not be enough. They would recommend 625ml of bleach per 1,000 liters of clear water.

(1,000 liters being about 265 gallons of water, and 30ml being two tablespoons.)

[MarkJ]

Originally Posted by CarlF

. Can you even smell chlorine at that level?

I also read that chlorine dissipates in about 24 hours when exposed to air (as in a vented tank). Does that seem right? Is something nasty left behind?

Carl

No, can't smell or taste.

Yes, chlorine disapates because when I lived in a house with a roof I had an aquarium with tropical fish. To remove the chlorine from the tap water you could add a chemical.... or just leave it in a bucket overnight...


Mark

[senormechanico]

Originally Posted by Saucy Sailoress

Stop it with cr@p like this - NO-ONE is to EVER to talk about saltwater in the galley sinks again. Every time hubby sees it, he uses it as ammo in our argument, and we are NOT having saltwater in our sinks!

Our boat also had a salt water faucet in our sink.

I removed it along with the fresh hot and cold ones and put in one of these:

Smart Solutions : Delta Faucet


Wife thought it was excessive, but I do the dishes.
I love it and it saves a lot of water.
Between the Spectra , a decent solar array and this faucet, we're never hurting for water.

Steve B.