Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 25-06-2016, 03:47   #31
Registered User
 
hoppy's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Boat: Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 40
Posts: 2,842
Re: BREXIT Impact on Saling

Quote:
Originally Posted by woodenboats View Post
Even then there is still the rule that if a boat has been out of the EU for more than three years, the VAT has to be paid again on re-entry...
UK boats will have to pop over to France every 3 years and the rest are already in the EU or already dealing with the 3 years RTW.




Sent from my iPhone using Cruisers Sailing Forum
__________________

__________________
S/Y Jessabbé http://www.jessabbe.com/
hoppy is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 09:44   #32
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Panama / Bahamas / Newport RI / Marathon Fl (now mostly)
Boat: Bristol CC 41.1
Posts: 294
Re: BREXIT Impact on Saling

If there is a serious threat of another ??exit country holding a referendum... that will be the end of the EURO..... put your Euro shorts on now an go long German Bunds as a hedge.... if even there is even a slight sniff of another crumb like Monaco or Lichtenstein putting up a referendum...you will see a par with the dollar..... then look out belowwwwwwwwwww......
__________________

__________________
sailingfarmer is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 10:01   #33
Registered User
 
GoingWalkabout's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: USA & Argentina
Boat: In the market for a Lagoon 56 (seems like the perfect fit)
Posts: 1,477
Re: BREXIT Impact on Saling

Quote:
Originally Posted by atoll View Post
perhaps now the right wing is in ascendance,the UK will revoke the Balfour declaration and all our problems in the middle east will dissolve with the dissolution of Palestine and its neighbour..........
The antisemitic anti Israel troll raises his head again.
__________________
GoingWalkabout is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 10:01   #34
Registered User

Join Date: May 2015
Location: 53°33'N 9°38'E
Boat: Mahogany Centerborder 30 foot, 1937
Posts: 77
Re: BREXIT Impact on Saling

Quote:
Originally Posted by sailingfarmer View Post
If there is a serious threat of another ??exit country holding a referendum... that will be the end of the EURO.....
There will be no referendum in any other member country before the consequences are clear - everyone ist waiting what will happen to Britain.
This is why Brexit will take the hardest possible route. Whatever the deal with Britain will be, it will be much, very much less favourable than the deal they had.
No one in the EU wants to encourage other countries to even think about leaving.

May I remind you that Britain is not a Euro member?
__________________
woodenboats is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 10:04   #35
Registered User
 
Stu Jackson's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cowichan Bay, BC (Maple Bay Marina)
Posts: 6,389
Re: BREXIT Impact on Saling

Quote:
Originally Posted by woodenboats View Post
No one in the EU wants to encourage other countries to even think about leaving.
The Netherlands is in the EU. They are thinking of leaving. How does that sentence make any sense?
__________________
Stu Jackson
Catalina 34 #224 (1986) C34IA Secretary
Cowichan Bay, BC, (Maple Bay Marina) SR/FK, M25, Rocna 10 (22#) (NZ model)
Stu Jackson is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 10:07   #36
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 2,105
Re: BREXIT Impact on Saling

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoingWalkabout View Post
What are you talking about. Have you seen the overnight fall of the Euro?
That is all sheer panic, especially among the hedge funds that gambled on In and lost, big time. Stree rumors are some hedged funds lost almost 40% on leveraged bets.

The whole EU concept was flawed from the beginning. Leaves the nations intact except for control over their currencies. Almost killed Greece. Next to leave most likely will be France. The northern nations are sending billions down to their poor southern member nations through direct payments and subsidies. People get tired of shelling out to deadbeats.
__________________
reed1v is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 10:08   #37
Registered User
 
GoingWalkabout's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: USA & Argentina
Boat: In the market for a Lagoon 56 (seems like the perfect fit)
Posts: 1,477
Re: BREXIT Impact on Saling

Quote:
Originally Posted by woodenboats View Post
There will be no referendum in any other member country before the consequences are clear - everyone ist waiting what will happen to Britain.
This is why Brexit will take the hardest possible route. Whatever the deal with Britain will be, it will be much, very much less favourable than the deal they had.
No one in the EU wants to encourage other countries to even think about leaving.

May I remind you that Britain is not a Euro member?
Wishful thinking on your part I think. The Netherlands are soon to have a national election. The pro exit party could indeed win. They will then immediately move to hold a referendum on leaving or they may well say that the General election was in fact a referendum on this issue and file to leave immediately. There are other national elections in the very near future that could see the same thing happening.
__________________
GoingWalkabout is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 10:10   #38
Senior Cruiser

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cruising Indian Ocean / Red Sea - home is Zimbabwe
Boat: V45
Posts: 1,282
Re: BREXIT Impact on Saling

Quote:
Originally Posted by woodenboats View Post
Looking at Brexit from Continental perspective many are happy to see a nation leave that has been a pain in our back for 43 years, demanding all sorts of privileges and special treatment like a 3 year old. Once they are gone it will be much easier to advance with the european project.
In terms of sailing for non-EU citizens life will become easier with Gibraltar, Wales and England no longer beeing a member of Schengen and VAT zone.
A friend of mine will have to move his boat from England into the EU every three years in order to maintain his VAT status - presumably will do so permanently.

Sent from my Lenovo B8080-H using Cruisers Sailing Forum mobile app
So lets debate this.....what are the specific arguments used to make this statement? Im not British but I am a supporter of that country (amongst many that I support).
The European project.........!! Sounds just like one of the two men that tried subjugating Europe before, and both came unstuck. Both those attempts had the very active participation of the Brits in resisting that intent.
__________________
Bulawayo is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 10:10   #39
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Daytona Beach, Fl
Boat: Irwin 38 Mk II CC 38'
Posts: 253
Send a message via Skype™ to PuttingDoctor
Re: BREXIT Impact on Saling

It's a wait and see time for certain. For those with US$ it is an opportunity certainly as the dollar is artificially high. When will the dollar bubble burst? Who knows. I have a steady watch on the CDN$ vs US$ and wait for the right moment to convert.

The turnout of 72% of the electorate and a very even split might indicate there is likely going to be a bit of a backlash. Scottish independence I think is a ways off. The likely new PM Boris!? looks way too much like Donald Trump for me to get my head around. It might not be a long time before a no confidence vote changes things in London....

Let's revisit in six to twelve months when we might have a better indication of what the results truly are and what the future may hold for the UK and EU.
__________________
s/v Sea Castle II
POC: Toronto, ON
PuttingDoctor is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 10:11   #40
Senior Cruiser

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cruising Indian Ocean / Red Sea - home is Zimbabwe
Boat: V45
Posts: 1,282
Re: BREXIT Impact on Saling

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoingWalkabout View Post
Wishful thinking on your part I think. The Netherlands are soon to have a national election. The pro exit party could indeed win. They will then immediately move to hold a referendum on leaving or they may well say that the General election was in fact a referendum on this issue and file to leave immediately. There are other national elections in the very near future that could see the same thing happening.
Plus 1
__________________
Bulawayo is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 10:17   #41
Registered User
 
GoingWalkabout's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: USA & Argentina
Boat: In the market for a Lagoon 56 (seems like the perfect fit)
Posts: 1,477
Re: BREXIT Impact on Saling

Quote:
Originally Posted by PuttingDoctor View Post
It's a wait and see time for certain. For those with US$ it is an opportunity certainly as the dollar is artificially high. When will the dollar bubble burst.
I think you have things mixed up a little. It's the Euro currency of the the lazy European socialist States that have their currency overvalued. It's been overvalued for years. The Euro is a disaster waiting to crash. Perhaps reality is finally sinking in.
__________________
GoingWalkabout is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 10:18   #42
Registered User

Join Date: May 2015
Location: 53°33'N 9°38'E
Boat: Mahogany Centerborder 30 foot, 1937
Posts: 77
Re: BREXIT Impact on Saling

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stu Jackson View Post
The Netherlands is in the EU. They are thinking of leaving. How does that sentence make any sense?
The leader of one minority party in the Netherlands is talking about leaving. Unfortunately, neither the Government nor the Opposition intend to go that way, so it is a safe way for Mr. Wilders to get some media attention - he knows exactly he does not have to live up to this. David Cameron, by the way, believed the same.
__________________
woodenboats is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 10:21   #43
Registered User
 
GoingWalkabout's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: USA & Argentina
Boat: In the market for a Lagoon 56 (seems like the perfect fit)
Posts: 1,477
Re: BREXIT Impact on Saling

Quote:
Originally Posted by woodenboats View Post
The leader of one minority party in the Netherlands is talking about leaving. Unfortunately, neither the Government nor the Opposition intend to go that way, so it is a safe way for Mr. Wilders to get some media attention - he knows exactly he does not have to live up to this. David Cameron, by the way, believed the same.
News Flash. Wilder is leading in the polls.
__________________
GoingWalkabout is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 10:24   #44
Senior Cruiser

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cruising Indian Ocean / Red Sea - home is Zimbabwe
Boat: V45
Posts: 1,282
Re: BREXIT Impact on Saling

Quote:
Originally Posted by woodenboats View Post
Even then there is still the rule that if a boat has been out of the EU for more than three years, the VAT has to be paid again on re-entry...

Another bit of crazy EU legislation.
I also noticed, Woodenboats, that you do not provide any information about yourself? Nothing about your boat (if you have/had) or country etc? Interesting to note your comment about VAT having to be paid again. Even more interesting is the Brits do not seem to apply this draconian measure. In fact, friends that bought their boat in South Africa, paid VAT in South Africa and then eventually relocated to Britain did not pay any VAT as they were able to show that VAT had been paid in SA already and that they had owned their boats for over two years by the time they arrived in UK. I know that is a decision I would be comfortable with - common sense prevailing over the autocratic rulings of the EU.
__________________
Bulawayo is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 10:24   #45
Registered User
 
GoingWalkabout's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: USA & Argentina
Boat: In the market for a Lagoon 56 (seems like the perfect fit)
Posts: 1,477
Re: BREXIT Impact on Saling

From Bloomberg news in January 2016.

"Wilders, 52, whose party leads opinion polls with calls to close Dutch borders to refugees, pledged to immediately pull the Netherlands out of the 28-nation EU should he become prime minister in elections due in March next year. The EU is unraveling and that’s to be encouraged, he said, urging the U.K. to quit the bloc in its forthcoming referendum."
__________________

__________________
GoingWalkabout is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Free: Nudist saling in Marbella, Spain MAHUIDA Classifieds Archive 8 28-07-2014 17:21
Saling up the Amazones Helena Fabel Challenges 0 08-07-2013 08:45
Soldier in Afghanistan Dreaming of Saling Away. Kenneth Magee Electrical: Batteries, Generators & Solar 4 22-10-2008 17:40
Fuel Price Impact on Boaters Sunspot Baby Powered Boats 24 29-07-2008 09:44



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 13:46.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.