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Old 25-06-2016, 02:47   #31
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Even then there is still the rule that if a boat has been out of the EU for more than three years, the VAT has to be paid again on re-entry...
UK boats will have to pop over to France every 3 years and the rest are already in the EU or already dealing with the 3 years RTW.




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If there is a serious threat of another ??exit country holding a referendum... that will be the end of the EURO..... put your Euro shorts on now an go long German Bunds as a hedge.... if even there is even a slight sniff of another crumb like Monaco or Lichtenstein putting up a referendum...you will see a par with the dollar..... then look out belowwwwwwwwwww......
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perhaps now the right wing is in ascendance,the UK will revoke the Balfour declaration and all our problems in the middle east will dissolve with the dissolution of Palestine and its neighbour..........
The antisemitic anti Israel troll raises his head again.
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If there is a serious threat of another ??exit country holding a referendum... that will be the end of the EURO.....
There will be no referendum in any other member country before the consequences are clear - everyone ist waiting what will happen to Britain.
This is why Brexit will take the hardest possible route. Whatever the deal with Britain will be, it will be much, very much less favourable than the deal they had.
No one in the EU wants to encourage other countries to even think about leaving.

May I remind you that Britain is not a Euro member?
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No one in the EU wants to encourage other countries to even think about leaving.
The Netherlands is in the EU. They are thinking of leaving. How does that sentence make any sense?
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What are you talking about. Have you seen the overnight fall of the Euro?
That is all sheer panic, especially among the hedge funds that gambled on In and lost, big time. Stree rumors are some hedged funds lost almost 40% on leveraged bets.

The whole EU concept was flawed from the beginning. Leaves the nations intact except for control over their currencies. Almost killed Greece. Next to leave most likely will be France. The northern nations are sending billions down to their poor southern member nations through direct payments and subsidies. People get tired of shelling out to deadbeats.
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There will be no referendum in any other member country before the consequences are clear - everyone ist waiting what will happen to Britain.
This is why Brexit will take the hardest possible route. Whatever the deal with Britain will be, it will be much, very much less favourable than the deal they had.
No one in the EU wants to encourage other countries to even think about leaving.

May I remind you that Britain is not a Euro member?
Wishful thinking on your part I think. The Netherlands are soon to have a national election. The pro exit party could indeed win. They will then immediately move to hold a referendum on leaving or they may well say that the General election was in fact a referendum on this issue and file to leave immediately. There are other national elections in the very near future that could see the same thing happening.
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Looking at Brexit from Continental perspective many are happy to see a nation leave that has been a pain in our back for 43 years, demanding all sorts of privileges and special treatment like a 3 year old. Once they are gone it will be much easier to advance with the european project.
In terms of sailing for non-EU citizens life will become easier with Gibraltar, Wales and England no longer beeing a member of Schengen and VAT zone.
A friend of mine will have to move his boat from England into the EU every three years in order to maintain his VAT status - presumably will do so permanently.

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So lets debate this.....what are the specific arguments used to make this statement? Im not British but I am a supporter of that country (amongst many that I support).
The European project.........!! Sounds just like one of the two men that tried subjugating Europe before, and both came unstuck. Both those attempts had the very active participation of the Brits in resisting that intent.
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Re: BREXIT Impact on Saling

It's a wait and see time for certain. For those with US$ it is an opportunity certainly as the dollar is artificially high. When will the dollar bubble burst? Who knows. I have a steady watch on the CDN$ vs US$ and wait for the right moment to convert.

The turnout of 72% of the electorate and a very even split might indicate there is likely going to be a bit of a backlash. Scottish independence I think is a ways off. The likely new PM Boris!? looks way too much like Donald Trump for me to get my head around. It might not be a long time before a no confidence vote changes things in London....

Let's revisit in six to twelve months when we might have a better indication of what the results truly are and what the future may hold for the UK and EU.
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Wishful thinking on your part I think. The Netherlands are soon to have a national election. The pro exit party could indeed win. They will then immediately move to hold a referendum on leaving or they may well say that the General election was in fact a referendum on this issue and file to leave immediately. There are other national elections in the very near future that could see the same thing happening.
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It's a wait and see time for certain. For those with US$ it is an opportunity certainly as the dollar is artificially high. When will the dollar bubble burst.
I think you have things mixed up a little. It's the Euro currency of the the lazy European socialist States that have their currency overvalued. It's been overvalued for years. The Euro is a disaster waiting to crash. Perhaps reality is finally sinking in.
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The Netherlands is in the EU. They are thinking of leaving. How does that sentence make any sense?
The leader of one minority party in the Netherlands is talking about leaving. Unfortunately, neither the Government nor the Opposition intend to go that way, so it is a safe way for Mr. Wilders to get some media attention - he knows exactly he does not have to live up to this. David Cameron, by the way, believed the same.
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The leader of one minority party in the Netherlands is talking about leaving. Unfortunately, neither the Government nor the Opposition intend to go that way, so it is a safe way for Mr. Wilders to get some media attention - he knows exactly he does not have to live up to this. David Cameron, by the way, believed the same.
News Flash. Wilder is leading in the polls.
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Even then there is still the rule that if a boat has been out of the EU for more than three years, the VAT has to be paid again on re-entry...

Another bit of crazy EU legislation.
I also noticed, Woodenboats, that you do not provide any information about yourself? Nothing about your boat (if you have/had) or country etc? Interesting to note your comment about VAT having to be paid again. Even more interesting is the Brits do not seem to apply this draconian measure. In fact, friends that bought their boat in South Africa, paid VAT in South Africa and then eventually relocated to Britain did not pay any VAT as they were able to show that VAT had been paid in SA already and that they had owned their boats for over two years by the time they arrived in UK. I know that is a decision I would be comfortable with - common sense prevailing over the autocratic rulings of the EU.
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From Bloomberg news in January 2016.

"Wilders, 52, whose party leads opinion polls with calls to close Dutch borders to refugees, pledged to immediately pull the Netherlands out of the 28-nation EU should he become prime minister in elections due in March next year. The EU is unraveling and that’s to be encouraged, he said, urging the U.K. to quit the bloc in its forthcoming referendum."
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