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**Cotemar** · 22-08-2016, 05:29

Helia 44 owners,

It's always nice to have a Reefing Chart right at the helm.
Had this made at a local sign shop and double face taped it to the helm.

CatBrazil · 22-08-2016, 06:01

Great! But I think the boat handles a lot more than that very conservative table given by the manufacturer, who will always hope all users be very shy. Does anyone agrees?

DotDun · 25-08-2016, 05:20

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Originally Posted by CatBrazil

Great! But I think the boat handles a lot more than that very conservative table given by the manufacturer, who will always hope all users be very shy. Does anyone agrees?

Conservative in what respect?

Reefing as recommended by the manufacturer has never slowed my boat speed, so why would I not use their suggestions?

If you are referring to how much wind in full sails it takes to flip the boat, I agree the recommendations are conservative. But what is the point of putting extra stress on the rigging when is doesn't have any benefit?

**Cotemar** · 12-12-2016, 09:17

Is this the NEW FP Automatic mainsail HOOK option ?

Option# 541370 Automatic mainsail HOOK e1,000 Euro

Karver KMS Square top bottom car system

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrh6a2YwI4c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVs24ETvHIg

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captainjay · 16-12-2016, 10:46

Yes it is we Island Rigging is working on installing it on Wide Ranger today.

**Cotemar** · 16-12-2016, 10:51

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Originally Posted by captainjay

Yes it is we Island Rigging is working on installing it on Wide Ranger today.

captainjay,

That is great to hear.

That will be a great upgrade as most cruisers are really struggling with hooking up these Square Top sails.

captainjay · 16-12-2016, 12:06

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Originally Posted by Cotemar

captainjay,

That is great to hear.

That will be a great upgrade as most cruisers are really struggling with hooking up these Square Top sails.

We bought three sets to refit some of the boats. I will try to get some video of it once they finish. It does require an 11 mm high strength halyard. Which also necessitates a new cam cleat as well for the smaller line. And there is a guide for the halyard that has to be installed in the crane so it is not a simply change.

captainjay · 16-12-2016, 12:50

https://youtu.be/kFqKJ5mzCYs

CatBrazil · 16-12-2016, 13:23

We asked Incidences to install their automatic halyard, and it work easily and flawlessly. It is just a spectra line that starts on the top of the sail, passes through the top car (the sail is NOT attached to that car), comes back through the top of the sail again and goes down to a place some yards below the top. When the sail is hoisted, the line pulls the top to the car, when slacked, the sail goes away from the car and drops nicely into the lazy jack.

Terbonium · 21-12-2016, 15:55

Does anyone know if a spinnaker halyard is included in the base sail plan?

Does anyone have a solution for the port side winch to control 2 port lines needed for a Parasailor.

**Cotemar** · 21-12-2016, 16:58

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Originally Posted by Terbonium

Does anyone know if a spinnaker halyard is included in the base sail plan?

Does anyone have a solution for the port side winch to control 2 port lines needed for a Parasailor.

FP provides a spinnaker halyard on all it's models.

A lot of FP owners have added a port side winch as a modification.
Not hard to do. Drilling the holes and installing a backing plate inside the Port stern Stateroom will be needed along with a block on the port toe rail.

You will also need blocks on both bows or install Bow cleats and soft-shackle blocks to those new cleats.

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ml#post2238195
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Terbonium · 21-12-2016, 20:01

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Originally Posted by Cotemar

FP provides a spinnaker halyard on all it's models.

A lot of FP owners have added a port side winch as a modification.
Not hard to do. Drilling the holes and installing a backing plate inside the Port stern Stateroom will be needed along with a block on the port toe rail.

You will also need blocks on both bows or install Bow cleats and soft-shackle blocks to those new cleats.

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ml#post2238195
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Thanks for the answer.

Would the guy lines require clutches and access to the winches or can they just be cleated off and adjusted there as needed?