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Old 18-10-2016, 19:50   #46
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Dual purpose Bow Cleats

Helia 44 Owners,

The 14” inch factory cleats are too far back to properly attach mooring lines to, because you have to snake the mooring lines through the seagull striker and gib furling line.

Some have pulled the lines around the outside of the bows only to find in a short amount of time that the mooring lines ride up over the bow and pull on the bow seat supports and the lines also chafe the outside of the hulls.

I have added a few dual purpose bow cleats to make it much easier to pick-up a mooring.
They will also be used as an attachment point with a soft shackles and blocks for a downwind sail.

The cleats are 12” inch Vetus Taurus (TAURUS04 )made from 316 Stainless Steel.
They were purchase from JamesTown Distributors for $74 each.
The cleat base is 6.3” x 2”. The bolts are M16 x 50mm long.

The backing plate is AL 6061 aluminum 3/8” thick x 8” Long x 4” Wide.
The backing plates were purchased from Online metals for $11 each.
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Old 18-10-2016, 20:04   #47
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Re: Anchor and Windlass

We added a 2nd bridle attached the same as the first. We stow it by pulling it around the beam and clipping it either to the net or the gull striker stanchion. This 'mooring' bridle is shorter than the anchor bridle and rigged to keep mooring balls away from the hulls. It stops the mooring balls from grinding a hull when current and wind are out of sync with each other.
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Old 19-10-2016, 20:05   #48
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Helia 44 Owners,

The 14” inch factory cleats are too far back to properly attach mooring lines to, because you have to snake the mooring lines through the seagull striker and gib furling line.

Some have pulled the lines around the outside of the bows only to find in a short amount of time that the mooring lines ride up over the bow and pull on the bow seat supports and the lines also chafe the outside of the hulls.

I have added a few dual purpose bow cleats to make it much easier to pick-up a mooring.
They will also be used as an attachment point with a soft shackles and blocks for a downwind sail.

The cleats are 12” inch Vetus Taurus (TAURUS04 )made from 316 Stainless Steel.
They were purchase from JamesTown Distributors for $74 each.
The cleat base is 6.3” x 2”. The bolts are M16 x 50mm long.

The backing plate is AL 6061 aluminum 3/8” thick x 8” Long x 4” Wide.
The backing plates were purchased from Online metals for $11 each.
did you do this yourself?

did you add any fiberglass to reinforce, or just the AL plates?

My cleats are not as far back, they are under the seat. Still, I should either put a chock on and lead the line from there, or your idea of just putting a cleat on the very front. Do you get any chafe on the boat on the mooring or bridle with this location?
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did you do this yourself?

did you add any fiberglass to reinforce, or just the AL plates?

My cleats are not as far back, they are under the seat. Still, I should either put a chock on and lead the line from there, or your idea of just putting a cleat on the very front. Do you get any chafe on the boat on the mooring or bridle with this location?
Jbinbi,

We do all our own work and upgrades on our boat.

We bedded the aluminum plates with Marine-Tex Epoxy.
We bedded the cleats with clear Boat Life - Life Seal

This bow location works perfect for any mooring bridal.

Whats also nice is when you just take a lunch time mooring (short amount of time) an attach only 1 mooring line to 1 bow you do not have to worry about the mooring line pulling on your bow seat supports.

We used the large 3/8 inch thick plate, because of the upward forces on the cleat when we use a down wind sail.

The bows are very thick an re-enforced as they need to be strong for attaching the seagull striker.
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Cotemar,
We just returned from seeing our new Helia in St. Thomas for the first time. I have been following many of your modifications and appreciate your advice. We are considering adding a cleat as you suggest. My question is if the 12 inch cleat is large enough to tie a mooring line on twice in the event that you don't have a spliced eye on one end.
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Devocean 16,

Wellcome to the CF. We are always glad to meet new FP owners and share ideas.

These 12 inch Vetus Taurus cleats are the largest strongest cleats on the market right now.
They will do everything that the factory cleats will do and also allow you to attach your down wind sail.
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