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Old 07-09-2017, 14:47   #1
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California communities suing for polluters to pay for storm damage

Lawsuits filed in July by three coastal California communities against ExxonMobil, Chevron, BP and other large fossil fuel companies argue that the companies, not taxpayers and residents, should bear the cost of damages from rising seas. From the Guardian.
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Re: California communities suing for polluters to pay for storm damage

Could only happen in "The Land of Fruits and Nuts"
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Thank the gods for California.
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Re: California communities suing for polluters to pay for storm damage

I glanced at the thread headline and for a split second thought it read "California communists suing....." Perhaps my subconscious got it right.
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Our lovely Kalifornia. Embarrasing but good weather....!
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On a lighter note, ahem

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Re: California communities suing for polluters to pay for storm damage

Reflects a view that industry is somehow 'them' and no longer part of our communities. That I think is the crucial problem that we should be wrestling with
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Re: California communities suing for polluters to pay for storm damage

Gee I think this is weird and I live in California. So the folks that buy cars and trucks are not the problem.... Hum.... More of just another way for the Franchise tax board (California's IRS) to tax somebody. They are rabid for funds.
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Re: California communities suing for polluters to pay for storm damage

Public employees will do anything here to try and generate funds for their absurd retirement plans. Unfortunately the public employee unions control the legislature and many or most local gov't bodies so our elected officials go along so they get money for reelection.

Need to blame our legal system too. Lots of legal fees on both sides.

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Re: California communities suing for polluters to pay for storm damage

I think the folks in the other 49 states should take a vote and force California to secede.
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Re: California communities suing for polluters to pay for storm damage

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Lawsuits filed in July by three coastal California communities against ExxonMobil, Chevron, BP and other large fossil fuel companies argue that the companies, not taxpayers and residents, should bear the cost of damages from rising seas. From the Guardian.
Could be the problem is The Guardian, not California. I did not see the article and there was no link. Just as California has gathered the fruits and nuts from many places, we have also attracted the brains, thus leaving shortages elsewhere.
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Re: California communities suing for polluters to pay for storm damage

Weren't there similar legal arguments in respect to smoking a few decades back? Big tobacco ended up having to take some responsibility for the consequences of their products. It wasn't just the responsibility of the idiots that smoked the product? Just wondering.
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Thank the gods for California.
Most countries around the world would agree wholeheartedly with that sentiment. Pity about the other 49 states.
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The people who moved from California to Nevada raised the avg IQ of both states. (with thanks to Will Rogers)
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Re: California communities suing for polluters to pay for storm damage

I disagree with the suit, but doesn't anyone realize that if the plaintiffs win it really means the companies were selling too cheap and they would have had to raise prices to cover these additional "costs". Now they are being penalized for giving us lower prices.

No company "pays" for anything. The customer pays in the form of higher prices if costs go up. As customers we could have been paying higher prices all along which the same people would have bitched about.

They have gotten the benefit of lower prices for all these years and now want to avoid paying the true cost of what they were buying. They want to get for free what they should have been paying for all along. Maybe it would be fairer to gi back and make us all pay the amount we shoukd have been paying based on how much oil we used. As often said, there are no free lunchs.
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