Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 12-08-2013, 09:21   #1
Registered User
 
Driftwoods's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Texas
Boat: 1987 Morgan 43
Posts: 118
Water Tank Vents

I was filling my water tank this weekend and heard the bilge pump running. A little investigation showed 2 openings in the forward water tank (under the V-berth). These openings appear to be designed; I assume as the tank vents but also serve as a bit of a overflow vent. However, they are all the way on the port and starboard side right next to the hull so it seems like they would leak into the bilge anytime we heel over enough and drain a little out of the tanks (probably not much).

So I'm looking for a sanity check. Are these just the tank vents and the overflow is working as designed?
__________________
s/v Driftwood
In some waterfront areas, driftwood is a major nuisance.
Driftwoods is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2013, 09:24   #2
Marine Service Provider
 
boatpoker's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Port Credit, Ontario or Bahamas
Boat: Benford 38 Fantail Cruiser
Posts: 7,117
Re: Water tank vents

Vents should be connected to throughulls well above the waterline, as close to the sheer as possible.
__________________
If you're not laughing, you're not doin' it right.
boatpoker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2013, 09:37   #3
Registered User
 
Driftwoods's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Texas
Boat: 1987 Morgan 43
Posts: 118
Re: Water Tank Vents

That makes more sense to me than what I'm seeing. It's really strange ... it looks like these were intentionally made to vent the forward water tank. They are positioned symmetrically on the port and starboard sides, at the top of the tank. I have heard of some Morgan's being vented into the chain locker, I'll look there and see if there's a vent that is blocked.
__________________
s/v Driftwood
In some waterfront areas, driftwood is a major nuisance.
Driftwoods is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2013, 09:46   #4
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 585
Re: Water tank vents

Quote:
Originally Posted by boatpoker View Post
Vents should be connected to throughulls well above the waterline, as close to the sheer as possible.
You may be right and I don't know if there are any specs that agree or disagree with your comment but...

I would never run my freshwater tank vents topside because saltwater or harbor water contamination may result. My vents are all loops of hose that run from the tank to very high under the deck then back down toward the bilge...ending well short of the bilge to allow drainage to it but prevent contamination if the bilge is full and the boat is heeled or suffers a knockdown.

Fresh water in the bilge hurts nothing. Harbor water or salt water in the tank can hurt your tummy.
fryewe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2013, 09:48   #5
Moderator Emeritus
 
Hudson Force's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Lived aboard & cruised for 45 years,- now on a chair in my walk-in closet.
Boat: Morgan OI 413 1973 - Aythya
Posts: 8,468
Images: 1
Re: Water Tank Vents

Except for bladder tanks I've never heard of a water tank that is not vented and I think this is best done with a through-hull. One vent would suit and you could plug the other or you could vent starbord to port & port to starboard if they might spill water at a heel. A loop in the vent hose can prevent contamination.
__________________
Take care and joy, Aythya crew
Hudson Force is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2013, 09:51   #6
Registered User
 
Cheechako's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
Posts: 25,526
Re: Water tank vents

Quote:
Originally Posted by fryewe View Post
You may be right and I don't know if there are any specs that agree or disagree with your comment but...

I would never run my freshwater tank vents topside because saltwater or harbor water contamination may result. My vents are all loops of hose that run from the tank to very high under the deck then back down toward the bilge...ending well short of the bilge to allow drainage to it but prevent contamination if the bilge is full and the boat is heeled or suffers a knockdown.

Fresh water in the bilge hurts nothing. Harbor water or salt water in the tank can hurt your tummy.
I've never heard of your method, but it sounds good.... why do the vents have to go outside at all? Little Bees nested in the vents of my Passport and it was the pits to get them cleaned out... One thing about trrue outside vents is you can tell when the tank is full. Why not vent into the cockpit side wall?
__________________
"I spent most of my money on Booze, Broads and Boats. The rest I wasted" - Elmore Leonard











Cheechako is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2013, 09:58   #7
Registered User
 
Driftwoods's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Texas
Boat: 1987 Morgan 43
Posts: 118
Re: Water Tank Vents

In my case, the openings don't seem quite big enough to handle the hose refilling at full speed when it get's pretty full so it runs up into the water fill hose and will overflow before it resettles. The first time that happens, it's as full as it should be.

I suppose I can just keep topping it off until I hear the bilge pump again. I get a full water tank and check my bilge pump is operating properly at the same time. Things could be worse.
__________________
s/v Driftwood
In some waterfront areas, driftwood is a major nuisance.
Driftwoods is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2013, 09:59   #8
Registered User
 
Vasco's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto
Boat: CS36Merlin, "La Belle Aurore"
Posts: 7,557
Re: Water Tank Vents

My port water tank (CS36M) is vented to the galley sink. The starboard tank is vented inside the boat, the line just runs up the inside of the hull. Any water from this vent would run into the bilge. I prefer this to venting outside the boat.
__________________
Rick I
Toronto in summer, Bahamas in winter.
Vasco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2013, 10:06   #9
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 585
Re: Water tank vents

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheechako View Post
I've never heard of your method, but it sounds good.... why do the vents have to go outside at all? Little Bees nested in the vents of my Passport and it was the pits to get them cleaned out... One thing about trrue outside vents is you can tell when the tank is full. Why not vent into the cockpit side wall?
My vents discharge to the bilge adjacent to the fill line where I connect my hose. I can see when each tank is full when the tank overflows through the line to the bilge pocket and can shut off the fill supply.

Vents in the cockpit side wall on my boat would surely result in contamination due to seawater frequently entering the cockpit when seas are up a bit and I am heeled.
fryewe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2013, 10:23   #10
Registered User
 
Cheechako's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
Posts: 25,526
Re: Water Tank Vents

all vents should have a loop above the exit to prevent seawater entry.
__________________
"I spent most of my money on Booze, Broads and Boats. The rest I wasted" - Elmore Leonard











Cheechako is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
water


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Need Help with Plumbing Re-Design Stirfryd Plumbing Systems and Fixtures 16 20-05-2013 21:58
cleaning port for water tank sailor0516 Plumbing Systems and Fixtures 9 16-05-2013 10:51
Fun with Water Heaters! Christian Van H Plumbing Systems and Fixtures 68 10-08-2012 13:52
Converting a Water Tank to a Holding Tank royelshort Powered Boats 0 16-11-2011 16:06
Refilling Water Tanks ironhorserider2 Plumbing Systems and Fixtures 19 29-09-2011 06:01

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 20:00.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.