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Old 30-10-2012, 15:38   #196
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Whatever they went through, it had to have been a terrifying ride. Notice the top, topgallant masts, and bowsprit are gone . . . probably from violent motion. That's a lot of timber and rigging crashing down. Brave souls.
nothing hanging down in the photos so looks like the timbers were shipped prior to leaving for st. pete.
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Old 30-10-2012, 15:44   #197
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"reed1v--read the writings of the bounty website--they had to be in st petes for a show st petes was holding for them. they were to be centerpiece--is written--why do you argue without looking up the facts????"

they did not "had to be" anywhere with the hurricane stirring around in the area. and hansen had given the captain complete authority as to sailing or not sailing to st. pete. get a grip.
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Old 30-10-2012, 16:16   #198
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in the late 40s and early fifties spent time as a kid with ben pine and my great uncle messing around in my family's old schooner. late fifties sailed on a variety of things, mostly on the pond but once down to the carib. 60s were spent on ww2 salvage boat in england. 70s not much outside of very old herreshoff gaff sloop on cape cod. 80s pacific sailing in my luders ketch. 90s too busy working. 00s switched to grand banks trawler. 10s a cute padebco and lots of arthritis; hope to get a orion 27 for the next decade. lots of time as supernumerary on variety of sailing relics over the decades.
Ohhh sorry, I guess you do know it all......
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"Ohhh sorry, I guess you do know it all......

never know enough. and i don't posture myself as some styled "captain". just have "been there, done that". so when i see someone providing advice or info that needs correcting, i correct them; so someone does not try dumping motor oil into a stormy sea and thinking it will do much good. hopefully they will use fish oil instead so it does not clump, and spreads evenly to a very thin layer . and knowing the owner of the bounty, do have some idea what is going on.
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in the late 40s and early fifties spent time as a kid with ben pine and my great uncle messing around in my family's old schooner. late fifties sailed on a variety of things, mostly on the pond but once down to the carib. 60s were spent on ww2 salvage boat in england. 70s not much outside of very old herreshoff gaff sloop on cape cod. 80s pacific sailing in my luders ketch. 90s too busy working. 00s switched to grand banks trawler. 10s a cute padebco and lots of arthritis; hope to get a orion 27 for the next decade. lots of time as supernumerary on variety of sailing relics over the decades.
Ben Pine from Gloucester ? Gertrude L. Thebaud or Columbia is the family old Schooner??
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"Ohhh sorry, I guess you do know it all......

never know enough. and i don't posture myself as some styled "captain". just have "been there, done that". so when i see someone providing advice or info that needs correcting, i correct them; so someone does not try dumping motor oil into a stormy sea and thinking it will do much good. hopefully they will use fish oil instead so it does not clump, and spreads evenly to a very thin layer . and knowing the owner of the bounty, do have some idea what is going on.
Good luck with your fish oil....or motor oil for that.....
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Old 30-10-2012, 16:34   #202
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rip bounty, captain robin and claudene christian.
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"Ohhh sorry, I guess you do know it all......

never know enough. and i don't posture myself as some styled "captain". just have "been there, done that". so when i see someone providing advice or info that needs correcting, i correct them; so someone does not try dumping motor oil into a stormy sea and thinking it will do much good. hopefully they will use fish oil instead so it does not clump, and spreads evenly to a very thin layer . and knowing the owner of the bounty, do have some idea what is going on.
Granted I have never witnessed the use of any kind of oil, but seems to me, you'd have to dump a lot of oil to create a big enough slick so that your vessel would stay in side of it! Hove to or other... Captain Paul Miller, Annapolis Grad and founder of Calif Sailing Academy, strongly advised against any attmept to dump oil in hopes of calming the seas..He also said that a passing ship may have enough oil for the job...
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never know enough. and i don't posture myself as some styled "captain". just have "been there, done that". so when i see someone providing advice or info that needs correcting, i correct them; so someone does not try dumping motor oil into a stormy sea and thinking it will do much good. hopefully they will use fish oil instead so it does not clump, and spreads evenly to a very thin layer . and knowing the owner of the bounty, do have some idea what is going on.
Do you have any idea how much oil it would take to calm a sea?
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Re: Merged Threads: HMS Bounty

How about we stop pissing up each other's leg and stay on topic?
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I know this is still ot, but not pissing-my understanding is that part of the benefit of heaving to is that the ship slides sideways and creates a sort of slick to windward, yes?
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Very sad - we saw her sail into Baltimore a couple years ago for Privateer Days weekend - (hope the photo comes thru)


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Eternal Father, Strong to save,
Whose arm hath bound the restless wave,
Who bid'st the mighty Ocean deep
Its own appointed limits keep;
O hear us when we cry to thee,
for those in peril on the sea.

O Christ! Whose voice the waters heard
And hushed their raging at Thy word,
Who walked'st on the foaming deep,
and calm amidst its rage didst sleep;
Oh hear us when we cry to Thee
For those in peril on the sea!

Most Holy spirit! Who didst brood
Upon the chaos dark and rude,
And bid its angry tumult cease,
And give, for wild confusion, peace;
Oh, hear us when we cry to Thee
For those in peril on the sea!

O Trinity of love and power!
Our brethren shield in danger's hour;
From rock and tempest, fire and foe,
Protect them wheresoe'er they go;
Thus evermore shall rise to Thee,
Glad hymns of praise from land and sea.
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I know this is still ot, but not pissing-my understanding is that part of the benefit of heaving to is that the ship slides sideways and creates a sort of slick to windward, yes?

Exactly. And the creation of said slick can be helped by the use of fish oil. But of course this whole technique, while it does work well, was invented by whalers, who happened to have a whole lot of "fish oil" on board the boat to use for this purpose. Can't imagine any modern boat carrying a drum or two of fish oil for this purpose.
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I *was* curious as to how many cans of sardines I might have to sacrifice to such a purpose...
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