Cruisers Forum
 

Go Back   Cruisers & Sailing Forums > Scuttlebutt > Cruising News & Events
Cruiser Wiki Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Log in

Closed Thread
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 29-10-2014, 09:44   #16
Registered User
 
ontherocks83's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Warwick RI
Boat: Catalina 30
Posts: 1,873
Re: Huge Cocaine haul off sailing boat!

Hope they didn't just dump it over board. Would definitely be some agitated neurotic fish swimming around with a nervous twitch
__________________
-Si Vis Pacem Parabellum
-Molon Labe
ontherocks83 is offline  
Old 29-10-2014, 09:54   #17
Registered User
 
avb3's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Florida/Alberta
Boat: Lippincott 30
Posts: 9,904
Images: 1
Re: Huge Cocaine haul off sailing boat!

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkJ View Post
A person who does not agree that drugs are not harmful and that drugs should be legalised.

I disagree with the argument "there so much cocaine out there we may as well legalise it"
Addictive drugs are extremely harmful (as are many of the 'designer' ones). That being said, Portugal decriminalized personal use possession amounts on everything, and rather than spending $$$ on policing illegal drugs, they are spending them on treating the addicts.

A good article in Der Spiegle (in English) on this.

'This Is Working': 'Drug Users Aren't Criminals, They're Sick' - SPIEGEL ONLINE

Perhaps the so called war on drugs would be better served on helping the addicted. Large scale smuggling obviously should still be targeted for interdiction.
__________________
If your attitude resembles the south end of a bull heading north, it's time to turn around.
avb3 is offline  
Old 29-10-2014, 10:15   #18
Marine Service Provider
 
Snore's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: St. Petersburg, FL
Boat: Retired Delivery Capt
Posts: 3,685
Send a message via Skype™ to Snore
Re: Huge Cocaine haul off sailing boat!

Was there someone doing a delivery in that area????


Sent from my iPhone using Cruisers Sailing Forum
__________________
"Whenever...it requires a strong moral principle to prevent me from deliberately stepping into the street, and methodically knocking people's hats off- then, I account it high time to get to sea..." Ishmael
Snore is offline  
Old 29-10-2014, 10:21   #19
Moderator Emeritus
 
nigel1's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Manchester, UK
Boat: Beneteau 473
Posts: 5,591
Re: Huge Cocaine haul off sailing boat!

Seems to becoming popular all this drug running in yachts.
Another one was intercepted a few weeks ago by the Irish Navy.

Pensioner skippered yacht seized by Irish Navy 'with £100m cocaine haul' | Daily Mail Online
__________________
Nigel
Beneteau 473
Manchester, UK
nigel1 is offline  
Old 29-10-2014, 10:35   #20
Registered User
 
Sand crab's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Boat: 34' Crowther tri sold 16' Kayak now
Posts: 5,067
Re: Huge Cocaine haul off sailing boat!

Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel1 View Post
Seems to becoming popular all this drug running in yachts.
Another one was intercepted a few weeks ago by the Irish Navy.

Pensioner skippered yacht seized by Irish Navy 'with £100m cocaine haul' | Daily Mail Online
I like the math. This "1 tonne haul is worth 100,000,000" so the first boat must have had only 100 kg. I'm sorry my math was so far off in my other post.
But wait that would mean that a gram of blow is 80 Pounds so all the street dealers are losing big time by only charging 40.
__________________
Slowly going senile but enjoying the ride.
Sand crab is offline  
Old 29-10-2014, 17:06   #21
Registered User
 
FSMike's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Bahamas/Florida
Boat: Solaris Sunstar 36' catamaran
Posts: 2,686
Images: 5
Re: Huge Cocaine haul off sailing boat!

So an anti-druggist" is:

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkJ View Post
A person who does not agree that drugs are not harmful and that drugs should be legalised.
----
I'm glad to see that you have no problems with alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, etc.
Which drugs should be legalized seems to be an individual decision.
__________________
Sail Fast Live Slow
FSMike is offline  
Old 29-10-2014, 17:20   #22
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 35
Re: Huge Cocaine haul off sailing boat!

Cocaine is one of the least harmful drugs to people and to societies but don't let facts get in the way of a good story.

Drug busts high dollar estimates are like measuring forest fires in number of lost tooth pics.

I'm not advocating drug running as I believe it should ship on normal
Cargo ships like everything else. Regulated, taxed, etc.
Turnone is offline  
Old 29-10-2014, 18:20   #23
Registered User
 
IslandHopper's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Bundaberg, Qld.
Posts: 2,192
Re: Huge Cocaine haul off sailing boat!

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkJ View Post
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/u...n-cocaine-haul

Being an anti druggist this stuff is great
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkJ View Post
A person who does not agree that drugs are not harmful and that drugs should be legalised.


Quote:
Pharmacists, also known as chemists (Commonwealth English) or druggists (both North American and Commonwealth English), are healthcare professionals who practice in pharmacy, the field of health sciences focusing on safe and effective medication use.
......but yes, it's good to see more of this s**t been intercepted
IslandHopper is offline  
Old 30-10-2014, 02:57   #24
Registered User
 
american's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Shanghai, China
Boat: 1986 Tosca 36'
Posts: 113
Send a message via Skype™ to american
Re: Huge Cocaine haul off sailing boat!

Quote:
Originally Posted by a64pilot View Post
Makes one wonder how they knew, I guess an informant.
International waters? Do they have authority if it was?
These days lots of criminals are finding themselves mysteriously caught.

Governments regularly share data collected from phone, cell, Internet, and other forms of communication. It's getting to be like Minority Report

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/1...ism-other-uses

Surprise! Controversial Patriot Act power now overwhelmingly used in drug investigations - The Washington Post

Governments of the world making sure that crime doesn't pay (unless it's government crime).

-a
american is offline  
Old 30-10-2014, 03:16   #25
Registered User
 
malbert73's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2008
Boat: Tartan 40
Posts: 2,475
Re: Huge Cocaine haul off sailing boat!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Turnone View Post
Cocaine is one of the least harmful drugs to people and to societies but don't let facts get in the way of a good story.
c.
How do you figure that?

I'm a doctor and part of my work is a practice is in inner city Baltimore. Lost count of how many strokes and heart attacks I've seen in relatively young people (and surprisingly old people as well) due to cocaine. And at minimum, when folks get addicted they tend to spend all their money and time on cocaine binges, and their overall health deteriorates as well.
Heroin may be the king of physiologic addiction, but the psychologic addiction of cocaine is unparelleled. Both have ruined lots of lives and health that I've seen. It's possible that the fact that they're illegal may deter some young people on the fence from trying, or it's possible it doesn't matter.



Sent from my iPad using Cruisers Sailing Forum
malbert73 is offline  
Old 30-10-2014, 03:27   #26
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Charleston, SC
Boat: Pearson 424
Posts: 215
Re: Huge Cocaine haul off sailing boat!

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkSF View Post
A type 23 frigate has authority wherever it likes.

Nice looking sailboat. What a shame to see it used in such a way.
I'm in the market for a boat like that, wonder if I could pick it up for cheap?
Anyone ever purchase a gov. seized boat and how does one find a "listing"?
Spindrift NH is offline  
Old 30-10-2014, 04:06   #27
Senior Cruiser
 
GordMay's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 49,462
Images: 241
Re: Huge Cocaine haul off sailing boat!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spindrift NH View Post
I'm in the market for a boat like that, wonder if I could pick it up for cheap?
Anyone ever purchase a gov. seized boat and how does one find a "listing"?
Find Sales of Seized Property | DOJ | Department of Justice

http://www.govsales.gov/govsales/govsales/

IRS Auction - Category Page
__________________
Gord May
"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"



GordMay is offline  
Old 30-10-2014, 04:20   #28
Moderator Emeritus
 
a64pilot's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
Boat: Island Packet 38
Posts: 31,351
Re: Huge Cocaine haul off sailing boat!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Turnone View Post
Cocaine is one of the least harmful drugs to people and to societies but don't let facts get in the way of a good story.
I'm trying to stay out of this drug discussion as I have unpopular beliefs myself, and it has little to do with cruising.
But there are some drugs that are worse than others, Cocaine is by no means a new drug and history shows that it, like Opium is one of the bad ones.
a64pilot is offline  
Old 30-10-2014, 04:40   #29
Registered User
 
Mark1977's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Halifax, N.S Canada
Boat: Tanzer 26, Walk22
Posts: 930
Re: Huge Cocaine haul off sailing boat!

Shouldn't this be in the "make money while cruising" thread???
__________________
Just the guy that runs the boat.
Mark1977 is offline  
Old 30-10-2014, 04:57   #30
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Port Ludlow Wa
Boat: Makela,Ingrid38,Idora
Posts: 2,050
Re: Huge Cocaine haul off sailing boat!

I think that what Mark j was saying in that he is a drug " resistor " rather than a drug "capacitor". Probably a good thing given his general location. Nothing "cruiser like" about criminal cartels.
I think history has shown that prohibition simply provides a profitable distortion in the market for any particular commodity that is prohibited. In the case of drugs, prohibition of a wide range of substances (harmful and non harmful) creates an enormous black market. Its a jobs program for criminals and cops alike. You want less of something? Legalize it and tax the crap out of it. Just sayin, "Prohibition" is a lousy method of social control that promotes crime and corruption.

Should folks be using drugs is a whole different subject. "Just say no!" Is the least problematic condition. Who needs drama?
IdoraKeeper is offline  
Closed Thread

Tags
sail, sailing


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Almost 750kg Cocaine on Yacht in Vanuatu karabil General Sailing Forum 55 28-08-2013 09:57
Cocaine Sub tropicalescape Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 10 19-10-2011 12:47
Cocaine-Laden Cat in Australia Hyprdrv Cruising News & Events 32 18-10-2010 03:31
There Are Haul-Outs, and then There Are Haul-Outs Starbuck Cruising News & Events 7 05-06-2010 23:08
To haul out, or not to haul out? Ocean Roads Construction, Maintenance & Refit 3 30-04-2009 00:26

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 15:52.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.