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Old 18-07-2020, 15:43   #1
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Looking for ketch center cockpit port/starbord helm models and any advice at all.

Hello everyone, hope I am putting this thread in the right place, I am not super experienced with this site.
I was hoping to find some help, I am looking for a certain kind of boat layout, pretty much the same as the Amel ketch rigged boats like the Euros 41 and Maramu models, also Camper and Nicholson makes a ketch with the same looking set up, ( I dont know much about Camper Nicholson, maybe someone can fill me in on their reputation ). and something as simple as the hardtop or hard dodger that seems to be standard on the Amel boats. I am looking for this set up due to my physical abilities and for blue water live aboard comfort. I like the Amel Euros although I wish they had a wider beam. Anyone that knows of or has knowledge of the Amel Euros or any of these boats please weigh in and tell me your thoughts.


here are some other brands and models with a center cockpit ketch will rig design I am looking at that I have basically stumbled across, PLEASE let me know of any other brands or models similar, the only other port helm CC i know of that I have not seen in a while is a Bavaria Oceans 42 cc for example, not sure of the quality of this brand as I believe they are mass produced factory builds that I would be surprised if they had the quality or rep of something like a Amel.


Other boats Ketch rigged center cockpit I could make work are boats between 39 -55 ff long models from abuot 1975-1989 looks like about as new as I could afford,there is the Gulf start MK-2, island Packet 46 for example, Formaosa 41 ( aka know as spin drift I believe ) Morgan out island.

And that's about as far as I have found for the ketch CC boasts.
I am looking for a strong blue water vessel with decent size water and fuel tanks 400 liters or more, hopefully something already set up with good nav equipment and live aboard equipment.


I thanks all of you for your input and suggestions and look forward to finding something that will even be better possibly than what I have found.


Also while I am at it I will probably be traveling to the France, Spain, Italy area to look at boats as there seems to be a large supply, I would love to get any advice on how to live cheap while there if at all possible and getting around in general if anyone has any advice in that area and of course buying a used boat in general if anyone has experience with brokers or inspection services, anything at all I would love to hear for advice.


Thank you.
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Old 25-07-2020, 05:01   #2
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Re: Looking for ketch center cockpit port/starbord helm models and any advice at all.

I own a Bristol 45.5 CC Ketch 1980.
30,000 pounds. Solid build of a Ted Hood design. Listings appear in the $100K to $159K range.
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Old 25-07-2020, 05:42   #3
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Re: Looking for ketch center cockpit port/starbord helm models and any advice at all.

Why do you think you can own a 45-50’ ,blue water, live aboard, yacht and live “cheap”. The above post is a good vessel choice. There are so many additional vessels which fit a rather vague description. Your public profile details some of your skills in sailing and mechanicals, but living “ cheap “ on a large yacht ? What do you mean by cheap? Living where? Making money how?
It’s difficult to give advice without some additional idea of your budget, income, and what you refer to as physical abilities. Limits on physical abilities can be overcome in vessel design and construction. Please be more specific about yourself and exactly what skills you have, what budget and what would be your ideal vessel. There is a lot of help in this forum once everyone clearly understands exactly what help you need. Please be more specific.
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Old 25-07-2020, 05:49   #4
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Re: Looking for ketch center cockpit port/starbord helm models and any advice at all.

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I own a Bristol 45.5 CC Ketch 1980.
30,000 pounds. Solid build of a Ted Hood design. Listings appear in the $100K to $159K range.
Not many 45.5s are ketches.
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