Negativity on Sailing Your Own Boat (RANT)

[David_Old_Jersey]

Originally Posted by Me-and-Boo

Most important is that I never had any negative things said to me until they saw the results of Irene.

Maybe you could have responded with the question as to why people build / buy / live in property ashore that will be affected by major weather / natural disasters........at least with a boat you can move it somewhere "safe" (Oh, how I hate that word ).

IMO it's never an "unexpected natural disaster" if you build a city / town / economic structure (or simply a 2 story house) on a flood plain - or what used to be the beach, or will be.........simply got to expect wet feet every few years, and every generation for lots of places to dissapear......there is a reason why the North American continent was largely unoccupied / undeveloped when the Europeans arrived.....got to always run to even stay still against nature.

Buying a boat is the sensible option

[Jeannius]

Originally Posted by Mr B

But my friend was getting exceptionally upset by it, So that affected me,
But we have it sorted it all out now, She is smiling again.Thankfully.
But it was touch and go there for a few days,

I recently sailed from Fiji to Mackay in my 44 ft cat( stopping on the way at Tonga and Vanuatu. If your friend is at all nervous I suggest you forget about a spinnaker or any other fancy sail while you do this trip. We just used to genoas on the one foil as our downwind rig and used a fully reefed main for anything else. Do it slowly and safely and don't frighten the crew.

The best cruise, in my opinion, is so boring that you read all the books you have aboard and have to start reading equipment user manuals.

Good luck and have fun

[sctpc]

Originally Posted by David_Old_Jersey

IMO it's never an "unexpected natural disaster" if you build a city / town / economic structure (or simply a 2 story house) on a flood plain - or what used to be the beach, or will be.........simply got to expect wet feet every few years, and every generation for lots of places to dissapear......there is a reason why the North American continent was largely unoccupied / undeveloped when the Europeans arrived.....got to always run to even stay still against nature.

Buying a boat is the sensible option

Sounds like Brisbane it got a flood now I have to pay more tax as some people had no insurance. we like supporting losers

[nv5l]

I get asked a lot about my plans, and after all the dog, food, and head questions, they always end up asking how long my upcoming voyage south will take. For me, that turns out to be the hardest one to answer, partly because I haven't actually planned the trip in detail, but also because there are just too many unknowns.

My hull speed is about 6.7, but I normally only figure on about half that for planning purposes. Then I'll double it to account for unknowns -- something always seems to go wrong -- and add some cushion to that for provisions.

Am I being overly cautious?

[MarkJ]

Originally Posted by Jeannius

I recently sailed from Fiji to Mackay in my 44 ft cat

How long did the passage take?

[atoll]

it is not nessacary to be part of the rally to check in in bundaberg,as customs etc are in town and available 24/7.

the only fly in the ointment is if you are importing the boat the customs effectively impound the vessel untill all dues are paid and it has had a termite inspection.
dont know if you have a customs broker but would reccomend getting one as this process can take weeks-months.

bundaberg is a nice easy landfall,but get your tides right as the river runs fast on the outgoing tide.

[Jeannius]

Originally Posted by MarkJ

How long did the passage take?

Sorry to be a bit vague but Logbook is at home so I'm going from the blog ( Sailing Jeannius ) Fiji to Vanuatu was 4 days and Vanuatu to Mackay about 7 days. Most of the last day was spent getting 30 miles through the Hydrographers passage averaging 2 knots!

Where are you in Grenada? We are in Clarkes Court today, moving round to anchor outside St George's later on.

[MarkJ]

Originally Posted by Jeannius

Where are you in Grenada? We are in Clarkes Court today, moving round to anchor outside St George's later on.

St Georges is lovely!

I'm in Prickly and have been since June. Were you in here at some time?

The St Georges Anchorage is very nice. Water is clear, coral and fish and all the things to make it a good place for a swim and the dinghy dock at the Caranage makes perfect access to town. I really enjoyed it there. But for some admin I would have spent much longer there.

If you drop into Prickly Bay sometime give me a yell


Mark

[rgscpat]

How many of the critics have sailed?
How many of the critics have cruised or have real bluewater experience?
How many of the critics have sailed with you?
How many of the critics have cruised with you lately?

If someone in the last group had criticisms, I would certainly worry!
If someone who isn't in any of the above groups had criticisms, probably not so much!

[webejammin]

Originally Posted by Mr B

Its just a guestimate, Average 10 mile per hour, I would say that would be tops,
I am asked how long will it take, so I give an answer,

Mutihulls run a lot quicker than Mono's, Thats their advantage, They skate across the water, not through it,

I would suggest you not use any sails that didn,t come with the Gemini 105Mc there screecher sail is only 420 sq ft and will be good up to 25 kt's of breeze achording to Dave Berig the sail maker. You said the extra spinnaker you have is for a Seawind 1000 but remember our Gemini's are only 14ft beam not 19 ft and that will make a big difference except in very light breezes. I would say you will average 7 to 8 kt's in a steady 12 to 15 kt breezes unless your surfing waves and you could get up to 18 kt's in 25 to 40 kt's of breeze surfing waves. Last week We did get 10.2kt's out of a 18 kt breeze on a broad reach and only healed 4 deg's not bad for a little cat. I was also told that in open ocean sailing to only put the centerboards down 2/3's the way down and in rough conditions to not use the centerboards unless your surfing big swells and reach 18kt's and put them down about 1/3 to slow the boat and get good stearing.
You will have a great time and I would have at least one or two extra sailors aboard to be able to get some sleep. As you know you need to check the autopilot motor and belt and carry extra parts sence you may be solo unless you buy groceries for everyone.

MR B Did you get on the Gemini forum on Yahoo to get more info on your cat's maintance.

[tropicalescape]

People are strange...especially over zealous ones with newly endowed powers.. I love'um, regardless...DVC

[zeehag]

this is what ye get when ye venture out....

[zeehag]

this







is what ye get when ye dont....

[Jim Cate]

Originally Posted by Mr B

Its just a guestimate, Average 10 mile per hour, I would say that would be tops,
I am asked how long will it take, so I give an answer,

Mutihulls run a lot quicker than Mono's, Thats their advantage, They skate across the water, not through it,

Mr B, my friend, you are dreaming. Dreaming...

Let's get together after you have made the passage and talk about reality.

cheers,

Jim

[zeehag]

reality--monos travel at about 4-6 kts dependent on wind speed--the multis i have discussed cruising with in person state they didnt get much over that.....